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Loving this collection. Cant wait till Season 2 is released. Should be any day now according to http://yeezy-season2.com/

I haven't been following this closely, but this seems to make sense to me. I'd be curious to know more about the arguments against it.

I can't believe I didn't hear about her show until now! Paula's written material is great, but improv is where she really shines. Seeing her live is the BEST. But, how is a cat cafe "weird" to her, when she owns 15 cats? C'mon, Paula! That place was made for you. ＼(・ω・)/

I'd just ask how she intends to explain to minimum wage workers in rural Oregon that they are worth less than people in Portland? Just like Measure 91 Democratic supporters in rural Oregon have less reason every day to support these Democrats. Voting Green this year.

Please tell me you will be printing posters of this.

Love that they also participate in the Portland Farmer's Market at PSU... and trying to gluten-shame Tastebud and propping Papa Murphy's in the same sentence is laughable.

Most of us don't yell at each other when we're face to face, even when we disagree, so why do we do it online in the comments section? I'm glad to see there's a commenting service that's addressing this issue!

Congratulations to both WW and CC!

Agreed! We're never going to get people to be 100% awesome to each other 100% of the time, but building tools like this will get us much closer to the level of not-awfulness we have in face-to-face society. Huzzah!

I'm not sure I see it the same way. The minimum wage was designed to be a living wage; a living wage in Portland is substantially higher than it is in, say, John Day or even Bend. I think this could be characterized as understanding that businesses in rural Oregon shouldn't have to pay their employees enough to live in Portland when, in fact, they don't.

Sigh, no more nana nana boo boo at people that post single minded, humorless responses to my posts. Actually I really like this, I just hope you have an auto boot to grammar trolls. I lIke two knot B judged 4 phat finGEred i-pAd typos.

I'm doing the same thing! :)

Getting rid of a way to truncate long reply threads seems like it might cause other problems. For example, if folks are sorting the comments by what's most popular (which is a handy feature) and there isn't a way to truncate the replies, everyone who replies to the top-most comment has their post appear above everyone else who simply posts to the main thread. Something like this: 1. I'm the most popular comment! a. response b. response c. response d. response e. response f. response g. response h. response i. response J. response 2. I'm the second most popular comment. a. response b. response c. response Imagining a scenario where the most popular comment has 200 responses on it, this could be a real pain. Perhaps seeing the four most popular responses to each comment could be done? I'm not sure.

Congratulations on taking this step with Civil Comments. An engaged community of readers can greatly enhance your publication's value. I've enjoyed, for example, reading the letters to the editor in the print edition of the Times Literary Supplement. Reader comments added value to the stories and enhanced the original content, making them part of the publication's appeal. I think this tool will help foster a similar culture online.

The six-year phase-in seems about right. It would avoid the dangers in a disruptively-steep inflation schedule, while preserving the ability of the legislature to intervene if unintended consequences occur, such as a major recession that threatens massive business failures.

Read this amazing book in the 1980s and used it for an undergraduate thesis on why we should all be eating less meat. If not for animals or your health, for the love of the land.

I'm extremely curious to see how this pans out. I'm a huge fan of moderated comment sections. Like others, though, I'm concerned about the effect "peer reviews" will have on thoughts that run contrary to the prevailing opinions. (Rather like Yelp, where substantive reviews can get torpedoed by a useless review that is "Funny".) Still, I applaud the intent and hope that it works well for the paper and Civil.

Richard Ellmyer, check out Agent Bretzing's official bio at the Portland FBI page -- turns out he went to Brigham Young U, leading me to believe that he has things in common with the Bundy boys. Also, for the first action taken against the terrorists at the scene we can thank the Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, who have a video at https://www.facebook.com/backcountryhabitat/videos/980875531985426/?theater showing their guys ripping down the BS militia sign and restoring the Wildlife Refuge sign. They also have a petition to show support for keeping our public land publicly owned & managed.

What are the incidents of disrespect shown to Native Americans. When and where did they occur. What was said or not said (body language) to the disrespected party?

What is the attitude from the police about these various Minorities? What are their experiences with these people? If the Police have few positive encounters with natives, it may be that the Natives have treated them badly. When people assume that the guilt only goes one way, they are guaranteeing that the problem will never be solved.

and 1983's Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence.

I'm happy to learn more about your history. I respect the work you mention above. If you do run for city council I'd love to read more information like what you've posted here. The shop has always been a highlight of Portland for me and you yourself have always been very kind and supportive of me and my work. Thank you for that. Best of luck with whatever you decide.

Congratulations, Nigel! You're part of what makes Willamette Week such a great publication.

Took this as an opportunity to check back in on The Yard and the floorpans are finally up and they are ATROCIOUS. Yeah, because I want to spend 2500+ to share a thin wall with my roommate. Oh, and I want to pick between a dining table OR living room set, because in this modern world you can't have both. And if you do want both, one is going to be in a tiny spot by your door and the other is going to be down a long hallway of useless square ft next to your kitchenette. So dumb. http://yardpdx.com/leasing/

I think this sounds really reasonable; the cost of living is much higher in Portland, so it seems to follow that Portland's minimum wage should be higher than elsewhere in the state. I understand the concern that this would undermine the 15 Now campaign, but it's a good compromise.

Do they burn/char their pizza like many of the trendy places in town?

I have some news for our Govenor, oregon does not stop at the cascades. I live in Bend, and the cost of living here is just as much if not more than Portland. To suggest that Portlander's deserve a higher minimum wage than the rest of the state is preposterous.

Congratulations to Civil Comments (whose founder/architect Aja is a model of both civility and intellectual engagement) and to Willamette Week for being a trendsetter again in community journalism.

There is certainly nothing in our long and shared history that could possibly justify Native American distrust of government authorities! Wait...

Ell-oh-ell. I applaud the town of Burns for not giving those guys a place to spout their extreme and reality-challenged goals and opinions. And really, who's going to choose #Yallqaeda over the new Star Wars movie?

Poverty doesn't make people more skilled in the arts. Why should low income students have priority? Also before other commenters jump the gun; I believe everyone should absolutely have access to free public education all the way through postgrad.

"Locke also noted that the teacher has given the ungraded and popular assignment for 20 years, that being an art-focused school means da Vinci often has unconventional hands-on approaches to assignments, and that students still will be tested more traditionally on their geography lessons." Hear hear. The only teachers I remember from school, who taught me the most, were the ones willing to go out on a limb and do creative stuff like this. And that joke about the whole-wheat cruelty free ingredients totally got lost in translation. Kudos to the principal for allowing a sense of humor!

Oh my god. Please make more of these.

Awesome. Well deserved!

Ugh... we're a state for a reason. Don't start making special laws for special parts of the state, not big ones like this.

Low-income kids should have priority because they start out so extremely disadvantaged when compared even to lower-middle-class kids. Giving them priority in programs like this helps to raise some of them up to the starting point of other kids. For example, David Bowie and Alan Rickman, two amazing creative artists we lost this week, both benefited from government-funded arts educations that their parents otherwise would never have been able to afford! Because they were able to go to art school for free, though, they bettered their own lives. And the rest of the world benefitted from their work!

And now I'm super hungry… for Africa? This is a weird and cool idea! The kids will spend a LOT of time thinking about what they could use for the various geographical features, and I bet they'll never forget it!

I think Native Americans should get a pass for being suspicious of any part of this government for the next… forever.

Haven't been to Tastebud's new location, but good on them for throwing a bone (crust?) to SW. Their pizza game is strong. SE Portland is fully saturated in great pizza, though I'm sad Pizza Maria closed. It was fantastic. But here's what I wonder: with all of this genuinely great pizza to be had on and around SE Division (I'd go to P.R.E.A.M. or Apizza Scholls every day if I could, and Cibo is excellent, as is Roman Candle, though a completely different style), how do places like Atlas Pizza survive? Atlas Pizza should not still exist by all the laws of gods and men, and yet. AND YET. Anyway 🍕🍕🍕

I'm wondering why the "parent" went directly to WW instead of emailing the teacher to ask for clarification on the project or to express concerns.

Me too!

Star Wars didn't come to Burns until the 15th???

But the minorities don't have the power to put the police in jail/etc. Even if there's mistreatment on both sides, the police should make the first moves to fix it.

That's good to hear! Does anyone have links to the work he was honored for? Or was it just for general performance? I'd love to explore it.

Is there any indication that Bowie or Rickman got special consideration or were they talented already? I don't think just allowing someone into an institution because they are socioeconomically disadvantaged is going to help anyone. Maybe they should have their own institution specific to their own problems.

They were talented, but neither would have had access to art school without government funding. Giving low-income kids priority doesn't limit other kids, who have plenty of enrichment opportunities (including the same government-funded ones!) As for "their own institutions", sorry but that sounds like segregation! Studies show that lower income kids benefit from going to school with higher income kids (reflects positively in test scores and behavior!)

It's truly a golden age of pizza in Portland. I went to Tastebud a few times when it was on Milwaukie; the pizza was excellent, but that space was a little weird. Very cramped and dark. Meanwhile: Apizza Scholls got new ovens and they're now offering calzones and bread!

This is a fantastic idea assignment. Kids will have to think about each country and landscape. Many schools just use rote memorization rather than something that will "stick" with the kiddos. WW, by calling this out, are you making some claim against this assignment? I assume you all have a vast understanding of multiple intelligence theory...And this is an ARTS focused school, where, presumably, art is integrated into the curriculum as much as possible. Creativity in the classroom is hard to come by. Stay out of its way, please.

If you haven't had a chance to see Hateful Eight on 70mm, DO IT. DO IT NOW.

Seriously? Wow. Who's going to trust anything she has to say?

Went the other night, had a great time. Nice to be able to get some interesting beers on tap around here!

The foster care system has been broken for more than 40 yrs. It is not that the caseworkers don't care but they are overwhelmed by a system that is driven by the Title IV-e funding. If the use of the Differential Response Module were used and the attempt to preserve the family less foster beds would be needed and fewer children would be traumatized by a radical removal from not only their homes but everything they know if their lives. If you don't believe what I say just listen to Molly McGrath Tierney is the Director for the Baltimore City Department of Social Services @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c15hy8dXSps

Kudos to this teacher for giving instructions to have fun, be creative and get your parents involved in learning about geography. This is an assignment kids will want to do and they'll learn. If the parent had issues they should have talked to the teacher. News flash- many Portland Public Teachers are awesome and kids can have fun learning.

Double Mountain has the best pizza in Portland. Yes, in Portland.

"Creativity in the classroom is hard to come by. Stay out of its way, please." Agreed.

Please update the photo caption. That is not just the Dandies and Bowie, but includes anothe music icon: Robert Smith of The Cure.

I don't know how teachers do it these days. Everything they do under a microscope. No sense of humor allowed. No tolerance for any mistakes or misunderstandings. What a nightmare it must be.

What a great leap forward. Thanks for leading the way, WW.

YES. Yet another reason to be on Team Gluten. Even with all of the amazing pizza to be had in Portland, Apizza Scholls still reigns. Can't wait to try the calzones and bread!

Agreed. I can't imagine why they'd want to launch with this kind of attention. You want a good general interest magazine based in Bend, read 1859. Those dudes rock.

I think Kate Brown should move forward and implement this proposal as it would help improve the economy of Oregon.

Yeah, it's going to be really hard for her to do anything even remotely public at this point. But it's worth considering that the magazine might specifically want her on staff to stir up interest and drive traffic? Cynical, yeah, but it's totally possible. I don't see it paying off long term.

I don't think it sends much of a message to host these rallies in places like Portland and Eugene. Sure, easier to find more people friendly to the cause in these cities, but what point is it really making? I'm pro-public land and pro-wildlife refuge, but I don't see how this is going to help.

While I was initially conflicted upon hearing this, the more I think about it the more I feel that having two separate min. wages isn't a good idea. While the idea of helping deal with cost of living in Portland is noble, this doesn't help anyone who may live there but work outside the "Urban Growth Boundary" for instance. Similarly, as Nick mentions, this may also incite people to live outside the boundary and pursue jobs within and on the other hand, some businesses, if given the option, may elect to open up or relocate outside the boundary in order to avoid the higher minimum wage.

If they held the rally near Malheur, though, it'd draw more press coverage back, which is what they want. The press is starting to ignore them; let's not give them a reason to head back out there.

So if unwanted people showed up and took over a few rooms in your house, you'd do...what now? Welcome them in?

Pamela, this is a great point about tone policing and the importance of shedding light on uncomfortable subjects, even angrily and passionately. What we're aiming for with Civil Comments, though, is eliminating the personal attacks, harassment, and even death threats that are, unfortunately, very common in online comments sections. None of those things are conducive to furthering actual conversation or revealing "ugly truths." Personal attacks, harassment, and death threats only silence people—either through fear or by forcing sites to turn off their comments entirely. Spirited debate—even angry words!—are acceptable so long as they're respectful of other people. I hope you'll agree that mutual respect is a reasonable expectation for public discussion, even when negative emotions are involved.

This sounds great! I'd never heard of "Straits Chinese,” but I'm sold. The inche kabin sounds amazing! Too bad they're not open for breakfast (I'm reading this at 7am and it's kinda killing me!)

Good question, Jackie! How do these yokels make their money? Well, LaVoy Finicum just had his foster children taken from his ranch, likely as a result of him becoming a militant criminal likely to face a suite of federal felony charges. Some reports and tax filings from his home state suggest Finicum was receiving, some years, $100,000 from Catholic Charities to provide foster care. While - according to his statements to the media - his cows barely pay for ranch expenses, the money from the kids could presumably pay for his lifestyle (surely other state money also helped). Was he getting free labor from boys who could work with him on his ranch? Perhaps, but all we know is that with the loss of his foster kids, Finicum is sad to be losing his monetary income, and says he may have to go back to eating rice and beans now that he's not getting paid thousands a week to house, feed, and provide ample ranch work for foster kids.

Am I missing something, because there's nothing about the "free-range, organic, cruelty-free" section that appeared to be joking, or have any self-deprecating self-awareness, which is what this whole deal hinges on. Are there any commenters who are going to call the supervisor on this obvious distortion? I think this email-leaking parent did exactly the right thing. If a teacher has been assigning something like this for 20 years, there's no point in "confronting her directly". If her supervisor comes up with the line that defends her free-range, earth-friendly snobbery was "a joke", there's no reason to talk to anyone at the school about this assignment (clearly the entire administration sees the mind-numbing cognitive dissonance in labeling a cake full of sugar "earth friendly" and "cruelty free"). Leak it to the WW, and see what happens: Lo and behold, suddenly the creativity-loving food snob changes her tune. There's nothing wrong with advocating for creativity (though I personally am skeptical of elementary school creativity proselytizers). There's absolutely nothing wrong with using and advocating "earth friendly" and "human healthy" ingredients. But a middle school teacher - even one who lives in Portland - has no credentials to know what these ingredients are, and no right to push parents of her students to make financial lifestyle decisions based on the teacher's personal moral stance on branding and labeling of chicken and wheat products. In any case, she's recommending they make cakes out of cookie or brownie or cake batters. The number 1 or 2 ingredient is going to be some form of sugar, which is probably the worst thing you could eat, health-wise, and "plantation-consciousness"-wise, anyway.

I have known Chloe for a decade or so. She will bring an intelligent, compassionate, people-centered approach to city government. And she'll balance the concerns of business- after all, she is a business owner - with those of artists, writers,musicians, and all the others who make Portland such a rich place to live.

Well I have said it before but I will say it again, the longer this goes the greater evidence of a false flag with the FBI's participation. It seems more than probable given the FBI's penchant for placing provocateurs among targeted groups, that this Bundy thing has a script that goes all the way to back to Washington DC. Note how the FBI seems to think that the media and locals of Burns are the problem not the "occupation". And it is a little unclear why the state police are not taking action and what about the Burns police department? Ultimately the goal appears to be to create artificial conflicts among different citizens so that united beneficial cooperation is off the table in favor of violence and greater federal control.

What is the foundation of the Harney County protest U.S. Constitution Article 1, Section 8, Paragraph 17 To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; KrisAnns Hall gives the Constitutional argument https://youtu.be/T424sWq1SkE

How much higher is the cost of living in Portland? Or don't you know.

It's a very odd "understanding" standing of Oregon that interprets everything out of Portland metro to be "rural." Do you think Salem. Eugene, Medford, Bend, etc are "rural"?

Will the protests have a specific call to action for the FBI or other government officials? Or is it a more general show of support for wildlife refuges?

I just want to say that rents need to get back to reality. People should spend no more than 31% income for housing. For me that makes sense, no more than one third of what you make for housing, then you have money for savings and for enjoying life! And... about Hart Noecker, if I see him anywhere I will Noecker in the snout.

jsilver, it depends on which cities you're comparing, but Portland has the highest cost of living in the state. But, let's use Medford as an example. Portland's cost of living overall is about 18% higher than Medford's. The cost of housing is the biggest factor there—it's 56% higher in Portland than in Medford!

The "rural" label is entirely beside the point. Most of Oregon outside Portland is, in fact, rural but a few places aren't; the important point isn't whether that label applies but whether the cost of living is at all similar to the cost of living in Portland.

Because the City (leaders?) for years used road repair funds for other purposes, and ignored the mess they created.

defending genocide is really racist. anyway, your analogy is a poor analogy. north america is not analogous to a private residence. but, your typical of comments frequently used by the reverse racists. And, particularly people who seek to immigrant to the USA, illegally. they often know nothing of american history, except for propaganda that justifies their personal agenda

you are defending of genocide.

If you look up the statistics on "maltreatment of children in foster care" you'll see that no state has more than 1 or 2 total for the year. The reason is that the federal evaluations come down hard on agencies who have more than that. So, anytime they receive a complaint of abuse, they either ignore it or investigate and find no substantiation. You bet the agency serves its best interests and not the interests of the children. PDX Grandma is right. The state takes far too many children into custody and for frivolous reasons to get the federal funding that keeps the agency existence justified. Nothing is going to change until the public gets invovled, starts asking questions of their legislators and to find out what their tax dollars is really supporting.

"Out of all of these options, Starbucks went with jack cheese to try to tap into this market. On slices of brioche to stay as on trend as Wendy's." These are threaded throughout--complete sentences. Broken up by periods. I find this stylistic quirk a bit of an impedance to reading. Although others may not be bothered.

This is great! I'm much more inclined to share personal experiences if I know that civility within the discussion is a priority -- that the people participating in the discussion aren't going to lead with aggression. I love interacting with, and learning from, comment communities and I think this service can only improve the quality of discussions happening. Actually, I'd love to see it in even more places online!

Should they have to? Christians, whether as a whole, or split by denomination would never submit to such a requirement. If a religion, any religion, had to offer an apology, or disclaimer, every time a criminal invoked their god they would never have time for anything else. Now that I say it, perhaps that would be a good thing after all.

Wouldn't it be ironic if support for right-minded action in this case has the unintended result of showering more undeserved attention on armed militants? Yes, I agree, with the underlying sentiment. But I also think the government's inaction in this case is brilliant. I like that it is apparently letting this non-issue dissipate over time as the armed militants get bored, fail to achieve anything, and (we hope) leave.

I second Aja_b's comment and go it one step further, that maybe silence and inaction is the most effective response, since more press coverage is a negative.

Their ridiculous band photo has me wanting to drink white wine at 3 in the afternoon. It's almost 5, right?

“Will Whiteness History Month make all white people hate themselves? Will white students cry themselves to sleep for the rest of their lives?” Hahahahahaha. This makes me very happy. The whole idea sounds a little bit ridiculous but it’s bound to spark some real political hostility! Hoorah for PCC.

It would be nice to get some objective cost of living stats on Portland vs. other cities, towns, and rural areas in Oregon. Are those available somewhere?

Thank you for this article, all I need to know not to vote for her. While I agree we could use some more diverse voices running for mayor and I even liked some of her background as a potential candidate; what we don't need is someone who derisively lumps all middle aged white guys together. Sorry but change that wording (and from someone else) to "another middle aged white woman" and the candidate would get hammered for sexism, ageism, etc... Might have been a snarky comment for humor, and that is what i want for a mayor...someone snarky.

Will do... and thanks!

I think that the sentiment from that post, made months ago, echoes a general dissatisfaction with the heterogeneous executive leadership that Portland has seen for so long. I think a new voice that reflects the dissatisfaction of those of us that don't feel represented by our government, would be more than welcome.

Because she tweeted that three months ago (and it's not the only complaining about white this and white that on her feed...some are more recent, too.), it's somehow less relevant? The more I look into her, the less I like her, to be blunt.

Iannarone is an interesting candidate to me; her perspective is clearly different from that of Wheeler or Bailey, and her guiding principles being livability and quality of life are aligned with mine. That's a respectable, non-ideological stance that's perfectly compatible with where I'd like to see the city go. No one has my vote yet, but I'm listening once she makes her formal announcement.

I don't think it's irrelevant. If anything, I think it's extremely relevant. She's voicing a frustration that many Portlanders feel, and that frustration has grown to a fever pitch, so, in my opinion, if we can get someone on board that can unite the discussion, frustrations and all, then we have a better chance of getting to a place where the frustrations abate and true change and progress can occur.

Read the whole article.... nowhere does it mention Vera Katz...... woman mayor of portland..... This article says this sarah lady would be first Vera used to sign up with me when i was a kid doing run for the arts program and my grandma worked at city hall.

Do not so readily suppose that people coming out of PSU are into sustainability, any more than people coming out of Metro. There is a lot of parrot-thinking going on in those chambers, supporting growth as usual dressed as sustainability. What originated in the 60s and 70s as an in-depth, holistic approach to bringing our human populations and consumption down to within the carrying capacity of the local bioregion, through relocalizing our commerce — and thereby achieving prosperity, more greenspaces, and better quality of life for all — has been corrupted into a machination for the haves to have more and the have-nots to get less, and for our neighborhoods to grow more overcrowded and more separated from nature. What originated as a bottom-up process has become a top-down process aided by the ivory tower views of academics and politicos, all congratulating each other on their progressive idealism even as we slide further into unsustainable existence ruled by non-local and elite capitalists.

Reo's really only ever did one thing well: spareribs. And not always well. I'm hoping that this smaller location will allow for more consistency.