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okay and whats your weight being doing
okay and whats your weight being doing
and so do you have any sort of ideas what might be going on yourself or any concerns at this point
and so do you move any of ideas what that might be to going on yourself or any concerns at this point
yeah im a bit worried just because its been so well controlled for few years now im worried that my is my adalimumab stopped working or is something else causing my symptoms
yeah im api bit ad worried just because its other well controlled for few years im that my is my it stopped working or is something else causing my say
or what do you think
or what do you think
yeah so theres a few things that might be going on to know we only need few different tests so one of them youre right it could be that the adalimumab kind of lost its effectiveness which sometimes happens and we can test for that by doing a blood test to check for the level of the drug in your body and also um sometimes you could develop antibodies against the drug as well
yeah cause theres bloody things that might be going on to know is only need few m different tests so one of them youre right it and be that the adalimumab kind of lost its effectiveness m which sometimes happens and we can test for that by a blood test to check for the level of the drug in your body and bells um sometimes you could develop antibodies against the drug as well any
and which can make it ineffective so we can easily check that and the other thing is that because youve had surgery in the past that can sometimes affect how something called the bile salts get reabsorbed um and sometimes that can cause diarrhoea if youve got high levels of bile salts in your bowel motions but thats quite easy to check for us well
and which can make fickle it ineffective so we can easily check the dont thing is that because youve had surgery tabloid the past that can sometimes piece affect called the bile salts get reabsorbed um and is sometimes that can diarrhoea got high levels of bile salts in been bowel motions but thats quite tigers check for us quite collect
and of course you need to also think about whether your disease is actually flaring up as well so the other thing well arrange to do is a faecal calprotectin in which youve probably done before
and of course need to also expedient think faecal about whether your disease is actually just up stayed well of the thing well to limit do is a faecal far calprotectin in which youve probably done before
just a stool test to cheque for inflammation and the bowel so if thats high we might need to look at your medication and think about making some changes
just a stool test cheque for inflammation the bowel so if thats high outer we might need to look at your medication and city about making some greatest changes you
do you have any questions about all of that quite a lot of information
do you have any questions about of that quite a lot of information
yeah its okay if you do need to change my medication like what would be the next step
yeah its okay if you do need to change my medication like what youre be the next step
so theres a few different options so there is a medication called and infliximab which is similar to adalimumab or we might look at you know switching you to a completely different drug um as well also also called the biologic different works in a different way in the bodies it is called vedolizumab but yeah i think first of all well get some up to date tests on first might need to get a ct scan or also an mri scan of your small bowel just to have a look and see if theres any inflammation in the bowel that might be you know causing your symptoms
so theres a few different yourselves so there is a medication called and infliximab which similar adalimumab eso might look adeline you pin switching you to a completely different drug um at well also called the biologic different works in a different way in the bodies it is called vedolizumab checked yeah ah i think first of all ko p get some up barrel to date tests on first might mei need to get a ct scan or also an mri scan of your um small bowel just to have a look and see if any inflammation of in the bowel that might be you know causing your symptoms
and i had surgery before my treatment wasnt working do you think thats a possibility in the future
and i had adelaida surgery before my bell ven do you thats a possibility little in the future
so i mean its always possible we have to always keep it at the back of our mind and hopefully they you know we can try and work out whats going on and that do something medically but yeah ofcourse we have to always think about surgery is as a possibility
so i mean its always possible we have to always keep but it at the am of re and hopefully they you know cramp we can rangers and work out whats going on and that do something it medically but yeah ofcourse we have dhis water about surgery is as a
yeah but hopefully not
yeah im but hopefully not
yeah thats fine thank you very much for seeing me
yeah thats fine thank my you very for seeing or me
so hello my names dr kosher im one of the gastroenterology doctors and this is the ibd clinic inflammatory bowel disease clinic can you tell me why youve been referred here today
so hello my names dr kosher im said one and from gastroenterology doctors and this is the ibd clinic inflammatory bowel clinic can you tell me why injured kilogrammes referred here today
yes so have been having this sort of that having diarrhoea for quite a while theres been a bit of blood in it as well have been a bit a bit concerned so went to see my gp and theyve sent me here
yes so have been having this sort of that having diarrhoea youre crones quite a while theres been bit of up imperative it as well have been got bit a bit time so went to see my and theyve a todo me im here
okay and how longs that been going on for
okay and how longs that been going on for
well its three months three month
well its three months three
and prior to that where you well
and prior to that in where looser checked
yeah ive been ive been absolutely ground before that yeah
yeah ive been ive been absolutely ground before okyeah yeah
and how often would you say youre moving your bowels each day
and how often would you inflicts youre moving your deltoids each day
probably probably about three or four times i think you know
probably probably about three or man times i think you know
three or four times okay has it ever been more than that
three or four times okay has andi ever non been more than too
it was you know it has been a couple times where its been maybe four or five or six or so
it bell you know it has been croons couple times where its been maybe adam four or five or in faecal or so
okay and is the blood mixed in or is it just on white thing would you say
about and krone the blood mixed in or is it right dh high thing would say
and if you had any abdominal pain
and if you had any abdominal pain
yeah but its been yeah its been quite a kind of crampy crampy pain yeah
yeah but its been yeah its quite a parent of crampy crampy pain yeah
okay um any other symptoms that youve had that you can think of
okay um any other symptoms that youve is that outer can think of
um ive noticed that my appetite have not really been eating eating as well as i used to ive got kind of funny rash on my my shin as well
um ive alone my appetite works not really been eating eating as well youre i used to ive got kind of funny rash on my shin as well
okay when did that start
okay that start
so that started about a couple months ago as well
so that ive about a couple ad months ago well
and do you have rashes anywhere else
and do you have rashes anywhere else
no its just on my shins
no studio its just on shins ad
okay any other medical conditions that you have
okay any other medical conditions that you are does
yeah i had ive got asthma but never really bothers me sometimes i have to take my blue inhaler
yeah i had got asthma but really bothers me sometimes i have to take my blue inhaler
okay and any other medications that youre taking
okay and any other medications that youre taking
and have you got any family history of any significant medical conditions
and have you got student family history society boats any significant medical conditions
yes my my grand my grand dad had ostrich colitis
yes my battle grand my stars had ostrich
and any other anyone else in the family with inflammatory bowel disease
and any other anyone else in the family with for bowel disease
no i dont think so
it i dont think claytor
okay so so far youve had some investigations done so weve taken some samples of your stool to make sure that theres no infection there and you also had a colonoscopy a couple of weeks ago did anyone go through the results with you
okay so so far plan had some data investigations of done so weve taken in samples of your stool to taesa sure that because no infection there and you also had a colonoscopy a couple of weeks high did anyone the machine the results with you
no not really no
no not really
so that we took some biopsies when we did the colonoscopy and it looks like you do have something called ulcerative colitis okay so they were in keeping with with that condition i dont know how much you know about inflammatory bowel disease or ulcerative colitis
p my we took some biopsies cramp when we did the colonoscopy and it looks like you do something called ulcerative colitis okay us they were in keeping with with that condition i dont barrel know how r know about inflammatory um bowel or sets
i know wee bit because i have seen my grandma my grandfather had it i dont know i dont know a lot
i know wee bit because i lot have seen my grandma my locked had it i dont know i dont rash know a lot
okay so its what we call a chronic condition so its something that youre going to have life long unfortunately um but its a condition that we can control very well with medications in the vast majority of people so to start with well start you on a course of steroids i dont think youve had any from your gp yet but that should help to sort of calm down the inflammation in your bowel and then well get you started on some other maintenance therapies im going into details of that on at the next consultation do you have any questions about that just at the moment
okay so its what we a chronic so its something that it youre going here to have life long unfortunately um but its a condition that we can tabloid very well with medications in the vast iss of people so to start here with well start you on student course of steroids i dont this think youve had soon your gp yet but that should help to bet of mat down one the tommy in mom your bowel adam then look get you on some other maintenance therapies service going into details of i on at the next do you have any about that just at the moment
um so um yeah sorry its just lot to take in
um so um yeah sorry its just lot to take
so how long will be on these steroids for is that for lifelong
so how long will be on these contest for that for lifelong
so the steroids are normally just for eight to sixty eight weeks until the inflammation has has died down
so take the steroids are normally just eight to sixty eight weeks until the inflammation has has died down
and hopefully your bowel have it should be going back to normal
and hopefully your bowel have it should going back been normal
and you should know its less blood as well if that doesnt happen with the steroids then we would want to know about that in case we need to do some further investigations but in terms of maintenance therapies that we talked about you will be on those for longer term and often people are on them lifelong or certainly for years depending on the course of their disease
and mob you should know its less blood as if that doesnt happen swallowing the steroids we would want to know about that in case am need to do some further investigations but in terms of therapies that we talked about you will mom be on those for theyve longer term and often people are on them sad lifelong or certainly for years depending on the of their disease
okay so and well also have to arrange some surveillance colonoscopy for you as well just to make sure that you dont develop other conditions that are associated with inflammatory bowel disease okay
okay so well also have gonna arrange some surveillance colonoscopy for you as well just to make sure that you dont develop other conditions that diary mouthon with inflammatory how bowel disease okay are
so well arrange it to see you back in clinic in about six weeks time for a review thank you
so well finest it to see you back in clinic in about affair weeks time for a p thank you
hello my name is dr kosher and im one of the gastroenterology registrars at the ibd clinic can i take your name please
mobs my mob name is dr kosher and one floating the bodys registrars idol at the ibd dont can i your name please
yeah its john smith
yeah mom its john smith piece
okay nice to meet you john so tell me whats been going on
okay nice to meet you john status tell me been going on
well so ive had crohns quite a while now i was diagnosed in early early twenties but i just its been its been okay for a while but its just ive been feeling very just very tired and more lethargic less rested like a few weeks or so i have not been able to go to work i had to call in sick ive got the my bowels have been a bit more bit watery and ive been going a bit more often
well so well had crohns quite a while now for i starts early early twenties but i just been its ad been okay for a while but its just been feeling very just very tired and more lethargic less rested like a few weeks the or v so i have not been take able to to work had ulcerated call in sick ive got the my bowels have state been a bit more bit watery and ive infected going a bit more often
okay how often would you say youve been moving your bowels in the last few months
okay how grand often would you say youve other moving your faecal bowels in the last few months
probably about three or four times a day so yeah
probably about three but four times a day so yeah
okay and you said youve not noticed any blood in your bowel motions
okay and you said youve noticed any blood in your bowel motions
no theres been no blood its just been really watery
no theres been barely no blood its just been really watery
okay and does that tend to be worse at night or during the day
okay and iss that tend to be worse at night or during the isnt
i wouldnt say that much of a difference really its sometimes im up in the night but sometimes its not every night
i wouldnt rate say battles much of a difference trampy its sometimes im me in the night but sometimes its not every night
and have you been having any abdominal pain or cramping
and have you been having any abdominal pain know or cramping
yeah wee bit of a cramping and abdominal pain its not been too bad but of often have this having abdominal pain i wouldnt say its too much different they are normal for me
yeah wee bit wanted a cramping and abdominal pain its not been beetle bad but of often have proven having abdominal pain i wouldnt say its too much different they are normal for me
okay and if you noticed any skin rashes at all
okay and if you noticed any skin pictureandi at all
and i know that youve been on fortnightly adalimumab
suddenly i know that youve been on fortnightly
and how hows that been going
father hasnt kyle that been going
yeah its been its been fine since yeah since i had surgery in two thousand and fifteen and yeah ive been ive been okay since then but yeah its just kind of recently ive just not been feeling that great
yeah stayed been its been fine since idol yeah since i had surgery in two thousand and fifteen and yeah ive been ive been okay since then but yeah its just adeline kind of recently ive just not been feeling that great
okay and any problems at the injection sites sort of skin reactions or
okay and mine have at the injection sites sort faa ofthe reactions or
okay and if you had any trouble with swallowing
okay and if severethat rational any trouble with swallowing
okay what about vomiting or feeling nauseated
okay what about of or feeling nauseated
i say i felt a wee bit a wee bit sick but ive not actually actually been sick
have say i felt wee bit a rate wee bit sick but whyd not actually actually been sick
okay and have you required any steroid courses from your gp recently
okay and have you required mobs steroid courses from gp
no not recently no
no not recently no
okay okay and any other medical conditions that you have
okay they and any other medical conditions affair you
um yes ive got ive got arthritis and ive also got hay fever and asthma as well
um soon ive watched got ive got arthritis non and ive also got go fever and know anne as look
and any other medications that youre on other than the adalimumab
and any other medications that youre on other than the adalimumab
so i take i take some diclofenac thats for my my arthritis
so i take i take guy some barely diclofenac thats for my my sets
are you taking that regularly
are you taking that regularly
have you noticed any stomach upset with that
have you noticed any stomach far bean with that
i mean well i suppose i have to have this abdominal pain in my tummy so i dont know could that be could be connected to that
i mean well i suppose i have to this abdominal pain my so sets dont know could that be could be connected to
yeah possibly so we do find people here on long term nonsteroidal medications like diclofenac that kind of upset your stomach especially if youre not taking omeprazole or a medication like that with it so we need to be might need to address that do you have any insight or ideas about what might be causing your symptoms preferably the diarrhoea and the weight loss
yeah possibly so they because being teo here on long term nonsteroidal something diclofenac that kind of dodds upset your stomach especially if youre not taking omeprazole or a medication like that with off so we look to be might need faecal address that do you have any insight or ideas about what might be causing your symptoms preferably the diarrhoea far and the weight loss
and well i suppose i just assumed thats my crohns with that was being watery but i dont know about but do you think it could be anything else
and well i movement just assumed thats quite crampsand crohns with that mucous being watery but i dont deciding about but do you think adam it be anything else
so yeah i think theres a few different things it could be i noticed that youve not had a colonoscopy for quite some time in fact not said to you shortly after you were diagnosed so we might need to look at repeating that i think in the first instance will get some blood tests off to check in inflammatory markers and we need to send some samples of your stool off to make sure theres no infection and also send off a special stool test called fecal calprotectin and thats to look for inflammation in your bowel that might be related to the crohns disease i think depending on what those are well maybe decide on whether you need another camera test up up the tail end to have a look at the lining of the bowel so i think thats thats what we are doing just at that the moment how does that sound to you
mohr yeah think theres a few different it could be telling i map that eso not too dont colonoscopy for adult quite some time in fact not said you shortly after you diagnosed so might need to look at repeating that i think in the first instance absorbed lost some blood tests off to check in time inflammatory markers and we need to send along samples of stool off to make sure theres no infection and also send off a special stool know test called fecal end protect and thats to look for and inflammation abso your bowel that might be related to the swell disease i think depending on what those well maybe decide on whether you nice another camera watch up up the tail well to have a look at the lining this the bowel outer so i diet thats thats what we anyone doing just one show of the moment does that sound to you
yeah i mean yes yeah thats thats all right yeah i just yeah i didnt really think could be getting all these tests and things quite a lot to take in
yeah i mean yes yeah thats thats all right yeah i any just yeah i didnt really think ad could im be telling getting all these tests and two quite a lot take in
yeah do you think i need to change my medication to something else
yeah do you think i need to change piece my medication to quite something else
so one of the things we can do is to check the level of the medication in your blood called the adalimumab profile or checking the antibodies and the level of the drug but at the moment i wouldnt change you from your adalimumab just until weve got a bit more information about whats going on
so one of the wanted we can do barrel is to check the level of the medication in your blood called of got adalimumab profile pictureandi checking the antibodies and the level barely of the drug but at the moment i fighting change you mob sets your adalimumab until idea got a bit other more information about whats going on
okay you think i might need more surgery
okay you think i might a need more surgery
well again it depends a little bit on the investigations we might you know depending on what they show we might need to go on and get mri scan of your bowel just to have a look and make sure there arent any other points of narrowing in the bowel like you had last time if thats the case then we might need to look at surgery but thats a lot further down the line for a moment okay
well battles it depends a little bit on the investigations soon you know depending on what they show we might need to go on and get mri scan faa your bowel just to opinion a said and make there it arent any other points of narrowing in deciding bowel tommy you had last time doors thats are the case then we might need to beetle stewart but thats old a lot down the line for a okay
hello my names amy i am one of the gastroenterology doctors can i take your name
my names amy i am one of the gastroenterology doctors can i take your name
okay nice to meet you rachel so tell me why youve been referred to the gastroenterology clinic today
okay nice to meet you rachel so tell me why youve referred to the gastroenterology clinic today
so for the past three months ive had a lot of diarrhoea and sometimes its quite bloody as well and its scaring me now
so outside the past three knowwhat ive had harry lot of and sometimes its quite for bloody as status and its scaring me now cem
oh and have you ever had anything like that in the past
oh this have you ever had anything ko like that in the other
over the past few years id say its been a bit iffy and intermittently having diarrhoea but its been worse over the past three months
over the past few years id say its still a bets iffy and intermittently having diarrhoea you but its ko been worse over the past three months
okay and that you are passing blood each time
okay that you are blood each time
most times and its mixed with the stool and sometimes i see clots and things as well
most times and its mixed with the v stool something sometimes i see clots and things as gonna
okay have you noticed any mucus in your bowel motions
okay have rational noticed any mucus im your bowel motions
yeah theres a lot of mucus
yeah inside a wife of little
and does that been the case for quite a few months as well
does that been the case for quite a few months as well