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ddalzqg	t1_ddafsr0	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	moseybjones	From fellow attendees as well as non-attendees, there were a lot of complaints that it wasn't as inclusive as it could have been. Some felt there was a line drawn between the pro-choice crowd and the pro-choice-but-very-much-personally-pro-life crowd. Some say it wasn't inclusive of sex workers, trans folks, and probably some other groups. Side note, I guess, but as a guy who attended in DC, I felt pretty included. So it certainly wasn't "anti-man" or anything. Overall it was very friendly. I didn't hear many people ostracizing each other. The most I heard was in reference to the signs of Trump and Putin kissing--people were uncomfortable with the idea that it seemed to demonize homosexuality. But no one took it out on the people who made the signs. You could say that the unofficial "funniest sign" contest that happens at every rally detracts from the message, or softens the severity of the situation. But that's not specific to the Women's March.	false	low	112
ddalz57	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Debageldond	I know that a lot of us go there, and it kind of served as a sane hub for Hillary supporters before this place took off during the primaries, but does anyone find r/politicaldiscussion to be 100% useless and unreadable now in the Trump era? I'm not trying to really insult the sub or its mods or anything, it's just a place that's built for a political zeitgeist with competent leadership acting in good faith, and it's like the answer to every question really is "we have incompetent leadership trying to undermine the US and what it typically stands for /thread".	false	medium	113
ddalww0	t1_ddacxtt	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	blueindsm	...after the nomination was pretty much already clinched.	false	medium	115
ddalwr4	t1_dda9k8g	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	rlg	This speech was broadcast live on all networks but ok	false	low	116
ddalwri	t1_ddafsr0	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	AnchorofHope	A few arguments I saw against it were Please note I do not personally believe any of these: Some people felt the need to clarify it did not reflect all women. Some people were confused on what the protest was about. Some people felt it was too soon to have a protest Some people focused mostly on the pro-choice versus pro-life debate and thought the protest was just an anti pro life thing.	false	low	117
ddalvf0	t3_5rrmz4	t3_5rrmz4	hillaryclinton	Rakajj	President [Bartlett](http://westwing.wikia.com/wiki/Swiss_Diplomacy) never would have let this happen.	false	low	118
ddalstk	t1_ddal7a0	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Ferguson97	I think that sexism is still a huge factor for voters, so as unfortunate as it is, we need a man if we're going to win. I think we need a Governor, so they can stand out as a "Washington Outsider". I think they need to be from a swing state, so Colorado and North Carolina are our best bets. Hickenlooper and Cooper are our best bets at winning in 2020, IMO. I'd prefer someone like Liz Warren, but I think those two guys have the best chance at actually winning an election.	false	low	119
ddalnzf	t1_ddag9c5	t3_5rvmkp	hillaryclinton	ThespisKeaton	But her emails! /s	false	medium	120
ddalmww	t1_ddalja2	t3_5rw7jn	hillaryclinton	dade1996	I agree! I love how active she has been on twitter and that she has a book coming out too!	false	high	121
ddalmbf	t1_ddal7a0	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	OurKing	He legalized reefer madness man	false	low	122
ddalm46	t1_ddal78f	t3_5rvi8a	hillaryclinton	Cstar62	He's sensible and I'll be fine with him winning. But I think Perez's focus on civil rights, his experience fighting for the working person, and the fact that he's run a government agency all portend a smooth transition.	false	medium	123
ddalja2	t3_5rw7jn	t3_5rw7jn	hillaryclinton	Cstar62	I'm liking this more assertive Chelsea. Would not be mad at all if she runs for Nita Lowey's seat.	false	high	124
ddalger	t1_ddakh8d	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Old_Army90	The gun bill would be a huge weak point.	false	low	125
ddalesv	t1_ddakk21	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Old_Army90	If it makes you feel better, the end and beginning of a year is usually a hiring slump, especially during an election season.	false	low	126
ddalehn	t1_ddaki04	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	wenchette	Unlike most people who do AMAs, Stone actually has been an active Redditor. [Some of the garbage he has posted in the past is astounding.](https://np.reddit.com/user/Roger-Stone)	false	medium	127
ddalc5f	t1_ddal1xp	t3_5rvi8a	hillaryclinton	Cstar62	Biggest Dem loser ever lol.	false	medium	128
ddalagb	t1_ddal14k	t3_5rvi8a	hillaryclinton	Cstar62	These are strategists not his aides who cited Perez's lead. And most of Ellison's endorsements are not voting members of the DNC you know, the ones who will actually decide this. But to reiterate, I will happily support Ellison if he wins. I just prefer Perez and Green.	false	medium	129
ddal7a0	t1_ddakh8d	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	moseybjones	Has he displayed interest in running in 2020? He needs to start getting his name out there. We saw in this cycle how being a no-name politician hurts your chances in terms of turnout. Seems okay, based on initial research. Wanna tell us more?	false	low	130
ddal1xp	t3_5rvi8a	t3_5rvi8a	hillaryclinton	Rakajj	Well shit, if Walter Mondale says so I guess that's the end of the debate.	false	medium	131
ddal07f	t1_ddakuyc	t3_5rvi8a	hillaryclinton	Cstar62	Remember endorsements aren't everything. And besides, Biden and Obama back Perez which I think gives him an edge over Ellison. I actually like Ellison, but I don't care for the way the Bernie or Busters think his win would send a message to all the Hillary supporters that they aren't welcome.	false	medium	132
ddakydj	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	DundahMifflin	Right before the election, someone at a Starbucks threw some sort of drink all over the back of my car -- right where my HRC sticker is. For the fucking life of me I couldn't get it completely washed off for some reason *until today*. It's finally gone! And a big middle finger to the idiot who did that.	false	medium	133
ddakwaj	t1_ddakneg	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Sharknado_1	They say that it is a meeting, but I think it might be a protest.	false	low	134
ddakvrq	t1_ddaki04	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	wenchette	Wow, that's a tough crowd there. I scrolled through about a hundred questions and not one of them from a Trumper.	false	medium	135
ddakveo	t1_ddagjoq	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Chim7	Frank Luntz was scarred for life. He almost begins crying at 2:30. https://youtu.be/JImsCI1olNQ	false	low	136
ddakuyc	t1_ddaknlg	t3_5rvi8a	hillaryclinton	Cstar62	Yep! Here you go: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/politics/articles/2017-02-01/biden-backs-perez-in-race-to-lead-democratic-party	false	medium	137
ddakuki	t1_dda0c6n	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	alaska6	Love this, great idea! Song for today for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irvcf6dCk-k	false	low	138
ddaks9b	t1_ddak5aa	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Bay1Bri	Lol ok, please tell me what you think my point was. And, good job making fun of disabilities. I bet that made you feel better about yourself.	false	medium	139
ddakpd7	t1_ddak4bg	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	noguchisquared	He's got a semblance of AJ Foyt: [AJ](https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/w8sI_mFl0_55Y1zdByBm5Q--/aD01NjY7dz03MzA7c209MTthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/motoramic/ajfoytbd.jpg) and [Tester](http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/7844904759b45b4c2e5aae5498f375a3fab368e1/c=54-911-4887-3642&r=x1683&c=3200x1680/local/-/media/2016/06/09/USATODAY/USATODAY/636010825690725050-XXX-CAPITAL-DOWNLOAD-WITH-SEN.-JON-TESTER.-JMG-30-82489334.JPG) But definitely semi-pro -- drive the trailer down to the tracks for the weekend. edit: AJ is a Houston, TX native. You may have known that. In other Houston news, the Puppy Bowl is going strong at Discovery Green (per friends) and worth seeing.	false	low	140
ddakneg	t1_ddajbpd	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	jar45	Is it an actual meeting? If that's the case I would recommend sticking to one topic and hitting it hard. I know there's a lot to complain about but it's just a more efficient use of everyone's time.	false	low	141
ddaklxr	t1_ddak94i	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	jigielnik	>There's plenty of proof and evidence but you have confirmation bias. Show me some proof and/or evidence that's not either anecdotal or circumstantial. Show me the recording of Comey talking about how this would impact hillary. Show me the memo comey sent talking about how he hoped it would make hillary lose. THAT is evidence... not "he did this thing then it had this impact" >ot that you'd ever be able to understand any of it on top of your confirmation bias. Saying confirmation bias over and over doesn't make you right. In fact, it just makes it seem like you don't actually know what confirmation bias is. Especially given the fact that I never said I know for sure he didn't do this on purpose... I just said there's no smoking gun evidence that he did it on purpose... and guess what, that's true! >Gas station attendants don't really know what they're looking at when they see news articles online. Okay so now you're... insulting gas station attendants by assuming all of them are stupid? I get it, you're "accusing" me of being a gas station attendant... but really, like everything else you've said it just betrays the fact that you're both uninformed and a shitty person. >You feel alienated? You really need to develop a sense of self. lol you really need to develop a sense of, well, sense...	false	low	142
ddakk21	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	freevantage	This may have nothing to with Trump but at least 5 of the jobs I've applied for have been cancelled since he became President. Anyhow, I finally got another interview for a research position! Unfortunately, it's for a job that I'm totally underprepared and unqualified for and considering there's a panel of 4 interviewing me. But hey, Trump and his cabinet are all unqualified yet they got the job. Why can't I?	false	medium	143
ddakifc	t1_ddaizoy	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Rakajj	First off, people are responsible for the consequences of their actions regardless of whether or not the consequence was intended. The Liberals that were happy were happy because they didn't understand the email issue in the first place, the FBI at no point had presented any evidence of mens rea and until they did there was no reason to be concerned about a minor department administrative issue like email handling. I've dealt with countless situations similar to this one in which you have a high-ranking person in an organization refusing to use the email mailbox that policy says they should, it's an organizational problem across government and industry where executives think they are above the rules and skirt or sidestep them. It was an administrative issue and barely worth much coverage unless there was evidence of mens rea; the media went nuts because it gave them free license to unload on Donald Trump while still being able to avoid being called biased by heaping loads of negative coverage on Hillary too. I'm not going to argue with you over what does or doesn't constitute rigging because the definition you are using is not the dictionary definition and I'm not the one who you were originally responding to that had used the word in the first place. >[Rigged](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rigged) 1. ~~Chiefly Nautical. to put in proper order for working or use. to fit (a ship, mast, etc.) with the necessary shrouds, stays, etc. to fit (shrouds, stays, sails, etc.) to the mast, yard, or the like.~~ 2. ~~to furnish or provide with equipment, clothing, etc.; fit (usually followed by out or up).~~ 3. ~~to assemble, install, or prepare (often followed by up).~~ 4. to manipulate fraudulently: to rig prices. They were undeniably fraudulently manipulating the election. They were presenting incomplete information about Hillary and casting her consistently in a negative light while failing to do the same to her opponent despite him having an equally if not more concerning investigation underway. Call it skewing, call it rigging, it doesn't matter as you haven't dealt with the problem that it happened and it must be prevented from happening again. This semantic game you've decided to play doesn't change the equation one bit.	false	low	144
ddakier	t1_ddai5cl	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Chim7	Ikr? Funny that Soros is constantly mentioned but I really want that Haim Saban Power Rangers money.	false	low	145
ddaki04	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	PMURTITSIFUH8TRUMP	Just got a temporary ban from /r/politics for asking too many anti-Trump questions to Roger Stone.	false	medium	146
ddakhr7	t3_5rvi8a	t3_5rvi8a	hillaryclinton	Cstar62	I'm still with Perez or Jehmu Green. But I can live with Keith. Perez is thought to have as much as a 66-vote lead though out of 447 voting members.	false	medium	147
ddakh8d	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Ferguson97	What do you guys think of John Hickenlooper? I think he'd have a really good shot against Trump in 2020.	false	medium	148
ddakf1r	t1_ddafsr0	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Chim7	Idk what "against" means. There was controversy about how Hillary was not mentioned as part of the official mission statement, that protection of sex workers was nixed, there was mild criticism that not all of feminism should be tied to female reproductive organs (not all vaginas are rich+pink, trans inclusion). Day off a few people were asking what's the point and some WoC were asking where these white folks had been all along. Those are the criticisms but I don't think anyone who was there would say that marching was a mistake.	false	low	149
ddakdrl	t1_ddak5gg	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	wi_voter	They are all such special little snowflakes.	false	low	150
ddak5gg	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	BumBiddlyBiddlyBum	[Hypocritical human garbage](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3wGR2kWYAEbpAU.jpg)	false	medium	152
ddak4s0	t1_ddahfu4	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	inowhazareddit	Why don't you just explain to me how to use my words.	false	low	154
ddak4bg	t1_ddajutq	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Old_Army90	I was thinking semi-pro stockcar racer	false	low	155
ddak2ku	t3_5rswzw	t3_5rswzw	hillaryclinton	razorbraces	I'm a constituent and have been calling his office every day, but I really doubt this. He released a statement yesterday saying that he will support her. I'll still call, but not very optimistic. The good thing is that I have had to try several times a day before getting through, so obviously people are tying up the phone lines.	false	low	156
ddak1vp	t1_ddagjoq	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Prez_SHillton	I think the pro-life group did march; they weren't allowed to be official signatories or something.	false	low	157
ddajwg7	t3_5rrtpu	t3_5rrtpu	hillaryclinton	nedo1234	This one hurts. RIP Ruline.	false	medium	158
ddajutq	t1_ddahx0l	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	noguchisquared	> Jon Tester He's got that not-quite Rulon Gardner look. Like he knows how to use a hay hook. edit: Gardner ran a dairy in WY. Tester runs a farm/butcher shop in MT. And (evidence #1) he can throw hay (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1409/2584/1600/testerhay.jpg)	false	low	159
ddajn03	t1_ddael7v	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Sharknado_1	YES!!!!!	false	low	160
ddajg48	t1_ddacvdc	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	AZWxMan	And the thing about him is no voter got a say on him like the VP, and no senator got a chance to confirm him like a cabinet member. He's a conspiring loon who has been given access to our most important secrets and is the President's closest advisor.	false	medium	161
ddajezs	t3_5pfm7n	t3_5pfm7n	hillaryclinton	MustafaArain	I was there in NY, it was truly beautiful. A breathtaking moment to see all these people, varying race religion and genders, all come together to oppose fascism. It was amazing to see everyone out there!!	false	low	162
ddaje9r	t3_5rsn60	t3_5rsn60	hillaryclinton	fyngyrz	Turns out the village was loaded with right-wing crazies. Didn't work out this time around.	false	low	163
ddajdam	t3_5p4p3x	t3_5p4p3x	hillaryclinton	MustafaArain	I fucking love her	false	low	164
ddajcii	t3_5q4udm	t3_5q4udm	hillaryclinton	MustafaArain	Fucking disgusting that this man is our president...	false	low	165
ddajbpd	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Sharknado_1	I don't like being a stickler or paranoid, but my indivisible group which is gonna visit Senator Shelby's office has three issues we are mentioning, the Muslim Ban, No on Sessions, and No on DeVos. I am concerned that it might get diluted.	false	medium	166
ddaja0x	t3_5rstni	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	MustafaArain	Jesus christ she knew all along too...	false	medium	167
ddaizoy	t1_ddahm0i	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	jigielnik	> You could probably argue that, but that's basically just an argument for Comey's incompetence. I mean listen, I never said he wasn't incompetent. But that's a long way from saying he rigged the election in any way. >It wasn't received positively by both sides, it was received negatively by both sides which was predictable and Hillary was the one who bore the brunt of that considering that was the end of a bullshit witch hunt and rather than being absolved Comey stuck a black cloud around her. I said he was trying to please both sides. I never said he succeeded. Though personally, I saw a lot of liberals who thought the first press conference was good simply because she didn't get indicted. > What's his defense of that unprecedented and unnecessary press conference? That he was trying to make everyone happy? That's clearly bullshit, as anyone with any sense would expect, nobody was happy after that. I mean... saying "thats clearly bullshit" is not an argument. It's a personal opinion. You think it's bullshit. I think its not. Who is right? Well, they're both opinions so they both hold the same weight. If you want to believe comey did this on purpose to sink hillary, that's your prerogative. I'm simply telling you that you do not have what any reasonable observer would consider to be smoking-gun evidence. >Of course they wouldn't hold up in a court room because none of it was illegal, it was simply unethical and a breach of rules but not laws (possibly the Hatch Act, I can't say with the information that is public). That's not what I meant by 'hold up in court' I mean the standard of evidence that courtrooms use... that is, evidence that proves something beyond a reasonable doubt. And so far, everything you've presented as "evidence" leaves me still with tons of reasonable doubt. >I'm content to take it a step back and say it was either rigged via incompetence or rigged via premeditation. I mean.. one of those things fits the definition of "rigged" the other doesn't. Which was my whole point. If comey hurt hillary via incompetence, that is not a rigged election. That's an election where incompetence accidentally hurt hillary. Which is exactly what I think happened with regards to comey. If you wanna talk about the russian hacks, there's where I'd agree that it was an attempt at rigging the election, though I think the overall impact of the russian hacks wasn't enough to swing the election - it was many different things together that swung it to trump. >The FBI's hand in the election is not something you can waive away purely because you can't prove intent Yes I can!! Are you joking?? If you can't prove intent, you can't prove intent. I never said comey's actions didn't have an impact. I said he didnt' plan out the things he did to create that impact.	false	low	168
ddaiym8	t1_dda1j07	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	epic_ukdunce	Colbert, Seth Meyers and Sam Bee do a good job in finding some humour in this whole debacle. That should give you some solace	false	medium	169
ddaidxx	t3_5rrtpu	t3_5rrtpu	hillaryclinton	captainamericasbutt	I find it absolutely devastating that she had to go with this monster in office.	false	medium	171
ddai9vj	t3_5rrmz4	t3_5rrmz4	hillaryclinton	Scoutmonkey	Ugh. Right in the feels. What a sweet little wee!!!	false	medium	172
ddai5cl	t1_ddaa1gb	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	freevantage	Wait. Are you telling me that this whole time, I could have been paid by Soros to protest? Why am I selling myself short?!	false	low	173
ddahzdw	t1_ddacvdc	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Scoutmonkey	Or we could make Trump lose his shit by calling it what it really is. *President Bannon. Make it a daily trend on FB, make it a viral hashtag and Donnie will fire him for hogging the limelight.	false	low	174
ddahx0l	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Old_Army90	On the subject of Democratic Senators - Jon Tester looks like he's from Montana.	false	low	175
ddahm0i	t1_ddagmfo	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Rakajj	>It was calculated to please both sides - no indictment, which pleased dems, but a scathing statement to please republicans - but not calculated to cause Hillary to lose the election. You could probably argue that, but that's basically just an argument for Comey's incompetence. It wasn't received positively by both sides, it was received negatively by both sides which was predictable and Hillary was the one who bore the brunt of that considering that was the end of a bullshit witch hunt and rather than being absolved Comey stuck a black cloud around her. What's his defense of that unprecedented and unnecessary press conference? That he was trying to make everyone happy? That's clearly bullshit, as anyone with any sense would expect, nobody was happy after that. If she was guilty or they had a viable case she should have been indicted, if she wasn't or they didn't have a viable case they should have treated it as any other investigation and said their investigation didn't result in a prosecutable case. The email issue was never going away regardless of what was said, Republicans didn't need any evidence to believe the worst about Benghazi they sure as fuck weren't going to take any response other than an indictment when it came to the emails. The way the FBI and Director Comey framed it was to indict her in the court of public opinion instead of in a court of law where, as you pointed out, the bar for evidence is much higher. Obviously, I can't prove with what public information exists that this was something they planned, but it was something anyone could have predicted and that they with that awareness have responsibility for now that it played out in that very predictable and biased manner. > I thiink - no, I don't think, I know - that NONE of these accusations you're making would hold up in a courtroom with the evidence you've provided. It's just your feeling but in reality, you have as much evidence to back up the idea that comey did this on purpose, as people who claim that Hillary's bank speeches is unimpeachable proof she's in bed with wall street... its just not how the real world works, and when you indict comey with circumstantial and anecdotal evidence, you sink to the level of the people who did the same thing with Hillary. Of course they wouldn't hold up in a court room because none of it was illegal, it was simply unethical and a breach of rules but not laws (possibly the Hatch Act, I can't say with the information that is public). I'm content to take it a step back and say it was either rigged via incompetence or rigged via premeditation. The FBI's hand in the election is not something you can waive away purely because you can't prove intent with what information has been released publicly and the inconsistent treatment between the Trump case and the Clinton case was something Comey acted as if it had never occurred to him that they were handling those cases differently. You can believe that if you'd like, but I think that's utter bullshit and so we remain caught between him / them either being incompetent or corrupt but I see no room for anything else. Their optional actions had predictable, partisan consequences and they went through with them anyway. It's incompetence, corruption, or both.	false	medium	176
ddahjll	t1_ddag9c5	t3_5rvmkp	hillaryclinton	Save-Ferris1	A theoretical candidate like that would have a hard time. The GOP base despises "career politicians" so much, they think being qualified for a job is automatically disqualifying. It's like demanding a surgeon who has never been to medical school, or an OT level VII Scientologist to be your pharmacist.	false	medium	177
ddahfu4	t1_ddadtue	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	AATRWY	Come on, besides the fact that mansplain is an annoying word, you're not even using it right.	false	low	178
ddahc3m	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	AATRWY	Good thing we don't have Hillary in there. She would have coddled up to Wall Street way worse than this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/03/business/dealbook/trump-congress-financial-regulations.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=64873002&pgtype=Homepage	false	medium	179
ddah8is	t1_ddaf6pd	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	HeyTherePLH	You're probably talking about April Ryan	false	low	180
ddah75l	t1_ddafsr0	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	wi_voter	I'll admit to feeling a little bitter and wondering why some of the marchers couldn't have been with us knocking on doors back in October. I know some of them were, but many weren't. I feel like Dems we are always playing catch up because no one takes things seriously until the damage is done.	false	medium	181
ddah60k	t1_ddafsr0	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	thewhitesuburbankid	I heard from Steve Bannon's lackey that the protesters were paid.	false	low	182
ddah5k0	t1_ddac0qq	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	reedemerofsouls	And how many laid off coal miners are there? What about rich white guys? They don't care about Maya Angelou either.	false	medium	183
ddah0gm	t1_ddafsr0	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	lliilloo	I saw a lot of posts that the March wasn't inclusive of POC and the LGBT community.	false	low	184
ddagu4o	t1_ddage6a	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	jigielnik	>She didn't lose and it was rigged. I mean... just saying the opposite of what I said doesn't make any point. In fact, it makes you look childish. >The electoral college is a bad system but that's not what I was talking about and you know that. I mean... honestly, I did not know that. I really don't know what you mean because there's no actual proof of any rigging. >Which means you are okay with what happened and you're a part of the problem. WTF is wrong with you? Are you trying to alienate people? Or does it just make you feel better to say the things you feel are true are factually true and ignore the lack of evidence? I voted for Hillary in 08. I voted for her in 16. I am as strong a hillary supporter as you'll find, but I will not stoop to the level of republicans and accuse people of rigging the election based on evidence that would never hold up in a court of law.	false	medium	185
ddagton	t1_ddaglqt	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Bay1Bri	Well, SOMEONE completely missed the point...	false	medium	186
ddagmfo	t1_ddag5bd	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	jigielnik	> You don't think the Comey statement in July was calculated? It was calculated to please both sides - no indictment, which pleased dems, but a scathing statement to please republicans - but not calculated to cause Hillary to lose the election. >You don't think the Comey letters in October/November were calculated? Nope. I think he was covering his own ass in case something had come of the Weiner computer after the election. >You don't think the FBI's decision to not reveal even the existence of their inquiry into Trump's Russia connection while simultaneously dragging Hillary through the mud in Comey's statement saying there wasn't a case lending credence to months of mounting Right-wing talking points was calculated? There's smoke, but no evidence of fire. The fact that comey did these things, and the fact that they had an impact, is not proof that he did those things to create that impact. It just isn't - that's not how proof works: correlation is not causation. One of the things that upset me most this election was that in America, you're innocent until proven guilty... unless you're hillary clinton, in which case you're guilty until proven innocent. So I won't do that with comey. I thiink - no, I don't think, I know - that NONE of these accusations you're making would hold up in a courtroom with the evidence you've provided. It's just your feeling but in reality, you have as much evidence to back up the idea that comey did this on purpose, as people who claim that Hillary's bank speeches is unimpeachable proof she's in bed with wall street... its just not how the real world works, and when you indict comey with circumstantial and anecdotal evidence, you sink to the level of the people who did the same thing with Hillary. >So if your criteria for you to agree to using the terminology of 'rigged' is pre-meditated or pre-planned...I don't think that's a problem here. Except that you have ZERO evidence to prove it was pre planned. There's always that.	false	low	187
ddagjoq	t1_ddafsr0	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	AATRWY	I haven't heard many arguments against the march itself. The only mildly controversial thing that I felt came up was whether pro-life groups should be able to sign up and march (they weren't allowed). Other than that, I imagine someone, somewhere, complained about the "vulgarity" of the term "pussy hats," but you're kind of stretching it with that one.	false	low	189
ddag9c5	t3_5rvmkp	t3_5rvmkp	hillaryclinton	wenchette	Gosh, if only there had been a candidate, one seasoned in international relations, perhaps even a former Secretary of State, I'll bet we wouldn't find ourselves in the middle of all these needless disasters.	false	high	191
ddag5bd	t1_ddafovw	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Rakajj	You don't think the Comey statement in July was calculated? You don't think the Comey letters in October/November were calculated? You don't think the FBI's decision to not reveal even the existence of their inquiry into Trump's Russia connection while simultaneously dragging Hillary through the mud in Comey's statement saying there wasn't a case lending credence to months of mounting Right-wing talking points was calculated? You can think all of that, but I disagree. I think it was calculated. I think his performance in the Congressional briefing in late January was absolutely dishonest and that he was fully aware of the hypocrisy he was guilty of committing. So if your criteria for you to agree to using the terminology of 'rigged' is pre-meditated or pre-planned...I don't think that's a problem here.	false	medium	192
ddafsr0	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	32brownies	I am writing an essay for school about the woman's march. Can some people please tell me some arguments you have heard against it? Or if there is another place to post this that is better?	false	low	193
ddafovw	t1_ddaf2tx	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	jigielnik	>I presume when they say rigged they are referencing the FBI's multiple interventions and uneven handling of the Clinton and Trump cases. That's a government institution that should be non-partisan as possible in elections that overtly and demonstrably impacted the outcome of the election. That's still not "rigged" though... rigged implies a pre planning that simply did not take place. I'm not happy about the comey lettee or any of that, but I don't think it was a purposeful attempt to change the results of the election.	false	low	194
ddafi0n	t1_ddabh0x	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	Mol-lurker	Someone needs to get highlights of that game and play Enya's Only Time as the soundtrack	false	medium	195
ddafgk0	t1_dda4utx	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Rakajj	Listen to Xi Jinping's speech in Davos last week (or better, [read](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/01/full-text-of-xi-jinping-keynote-at-the-world-economic-forum) it since it wasn't delivered in English). Does anyone seriously think that Donald Trump measures up to the Chinese President? Not even close, Trump is an intellectual featherweight that is going to get flopped on his back repeatedly by these much more intelligent, much more informed, much more serious world leaders who know how to play the game better. The real risk is that Trump will over-escalate to try and compensate for his lackluster ability. Beaten out in one way or another he falls back to the tools he crudely understands. Scary times ahead and it's very strange to have our own government draw the ire of the world justifiably. It's worse than 2003 and that's without considering that the scope of that international crisis was limited to Iraq.	false	medium	196
ddafacc	t1_ddade28	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	president_el_cucuy	Yeah that was absurd. Also lmfao at him citing Rasputin	false	low	197
ddaf6pd	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	president_el_cucuy	Who is that black woman reporter who always pushes back at Spicer unlike most of those other reporters? I think her first name is April. I wonder how long before the White House finds a way to force her out. Spicer's answer to her question on what Trump has planned for black Americans was laughable. She said "other than law and order" so Spicer rambles off random meaningless categories. "Jobs, health care, law and order" He couldn't think of anything. This administration is going to be so incredibly anti-minority it'll make our heads spin.	false	medium	198
ddaf622	t1_dda1svb	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	drtaylor4hillary	Chris Matthews always gives Kelly Ann an easy ride. They have known each other for years and while that shouldn't matter it does. I cant tell if he is attracted to her or thinks talking to her is like shooting fish in a barrell. Either way chris has never been impartial he loves you or hates you. In 08 he loved Obama and hated Hillary..in 16 he tolerated Hillary. But ultimately he is just a sleazy old white man. Can no longer tolerate HIM.	false	low	199
ddaf61m	t1_dda1svb	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	drtaylor4hillary	Chris Matthews always gives Kelly Ann an easy ride. They have known each other for years and while that shouldn't matter it does. I cant tell if he is attracted to her or thinks talking to her is like shooting fish in a barrell. Either way chris has never been impartial he loves you or hates you. In 08 he loved Obama and hated Hillary..in 16 he tolerated Hillary. But ultimately he is just a sleazy old white man. Can no longer tolerate HIM.	false	low	200
ddaf2tx	t1_ddabalt	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Rakajj	I presume when they say rigged they are referencing the FBI's multiple interventions and uneven handling of the Clinton and Trump cases. That's a government institution that should be non-partisan as possible in elections that overtly and demonstrably impacted the outcome of the election. It isn't rigging like skewing a vote tally is, but it's not a free and fair election when it has unethical, unjustified, unprecedented interference from government agencies impacting the result.	false	medium	201
ddael7v	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	sailigator	I'm watching the NM state senate talk about National Popular Vote right now.	false	medium	202
ddadv7h	t1_ddacvdc	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	inowhazareddit	Where do I sign up?	false	medium	203
ddadv50	t3_5rstni	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Tempest_Rider	*entire campaign	false	low	204
ddadtue	t1_ddadmcn	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	inowhazareddit	Hate when female relatives feel the need to mansplain for others. We are here for you, and Hillary is out there fighting for people like you.	false	medium	205
ddadmcn	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	GreyEidolon	I would like to take a minute to thank everyone here for the existence of this sub. I hardly comment nowadays, but having a check on the Trump bullshit is invaluable. Listening to the news directly right now feels a hell of a lot like being back in my abusive father's house...Kellyanne and Melania remind me of my father's enabling sisters who keep telling me "it's your mother's fault he's like this. She drove him crazy!" ...	false	medium	206
ddade28	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	gonzoparenting	I seriously can't watch Spicer give Trump credit for the great economy after ONE F!!KING MONTH.	false	medium	207
ddacyc3	t1_ddaa860	t3_5rtals	hillaryclinton	Cstar62	Exactly. She had been on the cover of Time. It's more and more clear how triggered White men are by strong women.	false	medium	208
ddacxtt	t3_5rstni	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Maverick721	But but but the DNC were mean to Bernie!	false	medium	209
ddacpvc	t3_5rrtpu	t3_5rrtpu	hillaryclinton	Cydgenie	So sad to see this.	false	medium	210
ddacgq2	t3_5rtl3r	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	hillaryvasan2016	Sessions's vote is right after DeVos's. I haven't seen as much internet momentum to oppose him as I have for her. :(	false	low	211
ddacf1c	t1_ddabqaq	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Rakajj	> Bernie would have helped the economy by growing it. It was the same message Drumphf used to win. That is not policy, that is an empty platitude. Please point me to the candidate that has ever run for political office while promising to not grow the economy. That promise is ubiquitous and Hillary made the same one, every politician does. It's the HOW that matters because that's what you're actually running on: The policy you want to put into place to address problems you've identified. Trump and Bernie both correctly identified some problems (whereas others they've entirely fabricated), but Trump's 'solutions' all fail to actually help the people who need it by appealing to poorly devised policy that far more closely resembles crony capitalism or the mercantilism of the 19th century than it does mainstream 21st century economic thought. Trump, like Bernie, lied about US manufacturing and promised to bring it back. That won't be happening, the data has proven it out that the losses have primarily been to automation and that jobs that were going to return would likely also be mitigated by automation and the costs to try and bring those jobs back (tariffs) will result in far more widespread economic problems with the cost to the consumer increasing and the net-gains all going to the owners of the automatons. Are you saying Hillary should have lied her ass off about what economists know is and isn't possible? Are you saying we should trust the opinions of arm-chair economists over people who have devoted their lives to professionally studying this subject? That's Trump logic and we have no space in the Democratic Party for that bullshit. PS: Ron Paul was an even bigger fraud than Bernie and you're fooling yourself if you think that man was remotely honest.	false	medium	212
ddac9dk	t1_ddac0z6	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Bay1Bri	> Bernie would have done much better if Hillary didnt actively subvert his campaign You mean, gasp, clinton tried to win the primary she was running for?? Shocking. And Clinton would have done much better is saint bernard didn't need to sooth his ego over doing what was best. Once it was clear he lost, he should have suspended his campign. But no, he called her unqualified, called her corrupt, called her bought by big banks (and hilariously couldn't name a single example of this when asked directly) and fed trump attack lines. Fuck bernie sanders, i want a candidate who has more than two talking points.	false	medium	213
ddac4sm	t1_dda0c6n	t3_5rtl3r	hillaryclinton	AsterismAlex	Dude! ~~Spotify~~ Sufjan is the business! Glad to see him on the playlist. My song for today: https://open.spotify.com/track/6EOKTIIYJw7V2NDsTOxAFy	false	low	214
ddac0qq	t1_dda9k8g	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	RiverSnake412	Those laid off rust belt coal miners actually aren't very big on Maya Angelou.	false	medium	216
ddabwlo	t1_ddabiso	t3_5rstni	hillaryclinton	Bay1Bri	How do you figure? Clinton beat Sanders in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida. All of these states clinton either lost or won by a small margin. There is no reason to think any of them could have been won by sanders. SO while he may have won Michigan and Wisconsin, he would have lost all of the states I previously listed, and likely would have lost virginia. Please explain how he gets to 270.	false	medium	217
ddabw20	t3_5rqay6	t3_5rqay6	hillaryclinton	numeraire	wait, I can lower my taxes and declare a dependent child right after having sex?	false	low	218

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moseybjones

From fellow attendees as well as non-attendees, there were a lot of complaints that it wasn't as inclusive as it could have been. Some felt there was a line drawn between the pro-choice crowd and the pro-choice-but-very-much-personally-pro-life crowd. Some say it wasn't inclusive of sex workers, trans folks, and probably some other groups. Side note, I guess, but as a guy who attended in DC, I felt pretty included. So it certainly wasn't "anti-man" or anything. Overall it was very friendly. I didn't hear many people ostracizing each other. The most I heard was in reference to the signs of Trump and Putin kissing--people were uncomfortable with the idea that it seemed to demonize homosexuality. But no one took it out on the people who made the signs. You could say that the unofficial "funniest sign" contest that happens at every rally detracts from the message, or softens the severity of the situation. But that's not specific to the Women's March.

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Debageldond

I know that a lot of us go there, and it kind of served as a sane hub for Hillary supporters before this place took off during the primaries, but does anyone find r/politicaldiscussion to be 100% useless and unreadable now in the Trump era? I'm not trying to really insult the sub or its mods or anything, it's just a place that's built for a political zeitgeist with competent leadership acting in good faith, and it's like the answer to every question really is "we have incompetent leadership trying to undermine the US and what it typically stands for /thread".

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blueindsm

...after the nomination was pretty much already clinched.

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rlg

This speech was broadcast live on all networks but ok

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AnchorofHope

A few arguments I saw against it were Please note I do not personally believe any of these: Some people felt the need to clarify it did not reflect *all* women. Some people were confused on what the protest was about. Some people felt it was too soon to have a protest Some people focused mostly on the pro-choice versus pro-life debate and thought the protest was just an anti pro life thing.

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Rakajj

President [Bartlett](http://westwing.wikia.com/wiki/Swiss_Diplomacy) never would have let this happen.

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Ferguson97

I think that sexism is still a huge factor for voters, so as unfortunate as it is, we need a man if we're going to win. I think we need a Governor, so they can stand out as a "Washington Outsider". I think they need to be from a swing state, so Colorado and North Carolina are our best bets. Hickenlooper and Cooper are our best bets at winning in 2020, IMO. I'd prefer someone like Liz Warren, but I think those two guys have the best chance at actually winning an election.

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ThespisKeaton

But her emails! /s

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dade1996

I agree! I love how active she has been on twitter and that she has a book coming out too!

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OurKing

He legalized reefer madness man

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Cstar62

He's sensible and I'll be fine with him winning. But I think Perez's focus on civil rights, his experience fighting for the working person, and the fact that he's run a government agency all portend a smooth transition.

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Cstar62

I'm liking this more assertive Chelsea. Would not be mad at all if she runs for Nita Lowey's seat.

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Old_Army90

The gun bill would be a huge weak point.

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Old_Army90

If it makes you feel better, the end and beginning of a year is usually a hiring slump, especially during an election season.

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wenchette

Unlike most people who do AMAs, Stone actually has been an active Redditor. [Some of the garbage he has posted in the past is astounding.](https://np.reddit.com/user/Roger-Stone)

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Cstar62

Biggest Dem loser ever lol.

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Cstar62

These are strategists not his aides who cited Perez's lead. And most of Ellison's endorsements are not voting members of the DNC you know, the ones who will actually decide this. But to reiterate, I will happily support Ellison if he wins. I just prefer Perez and Green.

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moseybjones

Has he displayed interest in running in 2020? He needs to start getting his name out there. We saw in this cycle how being a no-name politician hurts your chances in terms of turnout. Seems okay, based on initial research. Wanna tell us more?

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Rakajj

Well shit, if Walter Mondale says so I guess that's the end of the debate.

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Cstar62

Remember endorsements aren't everything. And besides, Biden and Obama back Perez which I think gives him an edge over Ellison. I actually like Ellison, but I don't care for the way the Bernie or Busters think his win would send a message to all the Hillary supporters that they aren't welcome.

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DundahMifflin

Right before the election, someone at a Starbucks threw some sort of drink all over the back of my car -- right where my HRC sticker is. For the fucking life of me I couldn't get it completely washed off for some reason ***until today***. It's finally gone! And a big middle finger to the idiot who did that.

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Sharknado_1

They say that it is a meeting, but I think it might be a protest.

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wenchette

Wow, that's a tough crowd there. I scrolled through about a hundred questions and not one of them from a Trumper.

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Chim7

Frank Luntz was scarred for life. He almost begins crying at 2:30. https://youtu.be/JImsCI1olNQ

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Cstar62

Yep! Here you go: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/politics/articles/2017-02-01/biden-backs-perez-in-race-to-lead-democratic-party

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alaska6

Love this, great idea! Song for today for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irvcf6dCk-k

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Bay1Bri

Lol ok, please tell me what you think my point was. And, good job making fun of disabilities. I bet that made you feel better about yourself.

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noguchisquared

He's got a semblance of AJ Foyt: [AJ](https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/w8sI_mFl0_55Y1zdByBm5Q--/aD01NjY7dz03MzA7c209MTthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/motoramic/ajfoytbd.jpg) and [Tester](http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/7844904759b45b4c2e5aae5498f375a3fab368e1/c=54-911-4887-3642&r=x1683&c=3200x1680/local/-/media/2016/06/09/USATODAY/USATODAY/636010825690725050-XXX-CAPITAL-DOWNLOAD-WITH-SEN.-JON-TESTER.-JMG-30-82489334.JPG) But definitely semi-pro -- drive the trailer down to the tracks for the weekend. edit: AJ is a Houston, TX native. You may have known that. In other Houston news, the Puppy Bowl is going strong at Discovery Green (per friends) and worth seeing.

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jar45

Is it an actual meeting? If that's the case I would recommend sticking to one topic and hitting it hard. I know there's a lot to complain about but it's just a more efficient use of everyone's time.

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jigielnik

>There's plenty of proof and evidence but you have confirmation bias. Show me some proof and/or evidence that's not either anecdotal or circumstantial. Show me the recording of Comey talking about how this would impact hillary. Show me the memo comey sent talking about how he hoped it would make hillary lose. THAT is evidence... not "he did this thing then it had this impact" >ot that you'd ever be able to understand any of it on top of your confirmation bias. Saying confirmation bias over and over doesn't make you right. In fact, it just makes it seem like you don't actually know what confirmation bias is. Especially given the fact that I never said I know *for sure* he didn't do this on purpose... I just said there's no *smoking gun evidence* that he did it on purpose... and guess what, that's true! >Gas station attendants don't really know what they're looking at when they see news articles online. Okay so now you're... insulting gas station attendants by assuming all of them are stupid? I get it, you're "accusing" me of being a gas station attendant... but really, like everything else you've said it just betrays the fact that you're both uninformed and a shitty person. >You feel alienated? You really need to develop a sense of self. lol you really need to develop a sense of, well, sense...

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freevantage

This may have nothing to with Trump but at least 5 of the jobs I've applied for have been cancelled since he became President. Anyhow, I finally got another interview for a research position! Unfortunately, it's for a job that I'm totally underprepared and unqualified for and considering there's a panel of 4 interviewing me. But hey, Trump and his cabinet are all unqualified yet they got the job. Why can't I?

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Rakajj

First off, people are responsible for the consequences of their actions regardless of whether or not the consequence was intended. The Liberals that were happy were happy because they didn't understand the email issue in the first place, the FBI at no point had presented any evidence of mens rea and until they did there was no reason to be concerned about a minor department administrative issue like email handling. I've dealt with countless situations similar to this one in which you have a high-ranking person in an organization refusing to use the email mailbox that policy says they should, it's an organizational problem across government and industry where executives think they are above the rules and skirt or sidestep them. It was an administrative issue and barely worth much coverage unless there was evidence of mens rea; the media went nuts because it gave them free license to unload on Donald Trump while still being able to avoid being called biased by heaping loads of negative coverage on Hillary too. I'm not going to argue with you over what does or doesn't constitute rigging because the definition you are using is not the dictionary definition and I'm not the one who you were originally responding to that had used the word in the first place. >[Rigged](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rigged) 1. ~~Chiefly Nautical. to put in proper order for working or use. to fit (a ship, mast, etc.) with the necessary shrouds, stays, etc. to fit (shrouds, stays, sails, etc.) to the mast, yard, or the like.~~ 2. ~~to furnish or provide with equipment, clothing, etc.; fit (usually followed by out or up).~~ 3. ~~to assemble, install, or prepare (often followed by up).~~ 4. to manipulate fraudulently: to rig prices. They were undeniably fraudulently manipulating the election. They were presenting incomplete information about Hillary and casting her consistently in a negative light while failing to do the same to her opponent despite him having an equally if not more concerning investigation underway. Call it skewing, call it rigging, it doesn't matter as you haven't dealt with the problem that it happened and it must be prevented from happening again. This semantic game you've decided to play doesn't change the equation one bit.

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Chim7

Ikr? Funny that Soros is constantly mentioned but I really want that Haim Saban *Power Rangers* money.

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PMURTITSIFUH8TRUMP

Just got a temporary ban from /r/politics for asking too many anti-Trump questions to Roger Stone.

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Cstar62

I'm still with Perez or Jehmu Green. But I can live with Keith. Perez is thought to have as much as a 66-vote lead though out of 447 voting members.

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Ferguson97

What do you guys think of John Hickenlooper? I think he'd have a really good shot against Trump in 2020.

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Chim7

Idk what "against" means. There was controversy about how Hillary was not mentioned as part of the official mission statement, that protection of sex workers was nixed, there was mild criticism that not all of feminism should be tied to female reproductive organs (not all vaginas are rich+pink, trans inclusion). Day off a few people were asking what's the point and some WoC were asking where these white folks had been all along. Those are the criticisms but I don't think anyone who was there would say that marching was a mistake.

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wi_voter

They are all such special little snowflakes.

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BumBiddlyBiddlyBum

[Hypocritical human garbage](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3wGR2kWYAEbpAU.jpg)

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inowhazareddit

Why don't you just explain to me how to use my words.

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Old_Army90

I was thinking semi-pro stockcar racer

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razorbraces

I'm a constituent and have been calling his office every day, but I really doubt this. He released a statement yesterday saying that he will support her. I'll still call, but not very optimistic. The good thing is that I have had to try several times a day before getting through, so obviously people are tying up the phone lines.

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Prez_SHillton

I think the pro-life group did march; they weren't allowed to be official signatories or something.

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nedo1234

This one hurts. RIP Ruline.

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noguchisquared

> Jon Tester He's got that not-quite Rulon Gardner look. Like he knows how to use a hay hook. edit: Gardner ran a dairy in WY. Tester runs a farm/butcher shop in MT. And (evidence #1) he can throw hay (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1409/2584/1600/testerhay.jpg)

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Sharknado_1

YES!!!!!

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AZWxMan

And the thing about him is no voter got a say on him like the VP, and no senator got a chance to confirm him like a cabinet member. He's a conspiring loon who has been given access to our most important secrets and is the President's closest advisor.

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MustafaArain

I was there in NY, it was truly beautiful. A breathtaking moment to see all these people, varying race religion and genders, all come together to oppose fascism. It was amazing to see everyone out there!!

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fyngyrz

Turns out the village was loaded with right-wing crazies. Didn't work out this time around.

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MustafaArain

I fucking love her

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MustafaArain

Fucking disgusting that this man is our president...

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Sharknado_1

I don't like being a stickler or paranoid, but my indivisible group which is gonna visit Senator Shelby's office has three issues we are mentioning, the Muslim Ban, No on Sessions, and No on DeVos. I am concerned that it might get diluted.

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MustafaArain

Jesus christ she knew all along too...

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jigielnik

> You could probably argue that, but that's basically just an argument for Comey's incompetence. I mean listen, I never said he wasn't incompetent. But that's a long way from saying he rigged the election in any way. >It wasn't received positively by both sides, it was received negatively by both sides which was predictable and Hillary was the one who bore the brunt of that considering that was the end of a bullshit witch hunt and rather than being absolved Comey stuck a black cloud around her. I said he was *trying* to please both sides. I never said he succeeded. Though personally, I saw a lot of liberals who thought the first press conference was good simply because she didn't get indicted. > What's his defense of that unprecedented and unnecessary press conference? That he was trying to make everyone happy? That's clearly bullshit, as anyone with any sense would expect, nobody was happy after that. I mean... saying "thats clearly bullshit" is not an argument. It's a personal opinion. You think it's bullshit. I think its not. Who is right? Well, they're both *opinions* so they both hold the same weight. If you want to believe comey did this on purpose to sink hillary, that's your prerogative. I'm simply telling you that you do not have what any reasonable observer would consider to be smoking-gun evidence. >Of course they wouldn't hold up in a court room because none of it was illegal, it was simply unethical and a breach of rules but not laws (possibly the Hatch Act, I can't say with the information that is public). That's not what I meant by 'hold up in court' I mean the *standard of evidence* that courtrooms use... that is, evidence that proves something beyond a reasonable doubt. And so far, *everything* you've presented as "evidence" leaves me still with tons of reasonable doubt. >I'm content to take it a step back and say it was either rigged via incompetence or rigged via premeditation. I mean.. one of those things fits the definition of "rigged" the other doesn't. Which was my whole point. If comey hurt hillary via incompetence, that is not a rigged election. That's an election where incompetence accidentally hurt hillary. Which is exactly what I think happened with regards to comey. If you wanna talk about the russian hacks, there's where I'd agree that it was an *attempt* at rigging the election, though I think the overall impact of the russian hacks wasn't enough to swing the election - it was many different things together that swung it to trump. >The FBI's hand in the election is not something you can waive away purely because you can't prove intent Yes I can!! Are you joking?? If you can't prove intent, you can't prove intent. I never said comey's actions didn't have an impact. I said he didnt' plan out the things he did to create that impact.

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epic_ukdunce

Colbert, Seth Meyers and Sam Bee do a good job in finding some humour in this whole debacle. That should give you some solace

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captainamericasbutt

I find it absolutely devastating that she had to go with this monster in office.

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Scoutmonkey

Ugh. Right in the feels. What a sweet little wee!!!

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freevantage

Wait. Are you telling me that this whole time, I could have been paid by Soros to protest? Why am I selling myself short?!

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Scoutmonkey

Or we could make Trump lose his shit by calling it what it really is. *President Bannon. Make it a daily trend on FB, make it a viral hashtag and Donnie will fire him for hogging the limelight.

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Old_Army90

On the subject of Democratic Senators - Jon Tester *looks* like he's from Montana.

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Rakajj

>It was calculated to please both sides - no indictment, which pleased dems, but a scathing statement to please republicans - but not calculated to cause Hillary to lose the election. You could probably argue that, but that's basically just an argument for Comey's incompetence. It wasn't received positively by both sides, it was received negatively by both sides which was predictable and Hillary was the one who bore the brunt of that considering that was the end of a bullshit witch hunt and rather than being absolved Comey stuck a black cloud around her. What's his defense of that unprecedented and unnecessary press conference? That he was trying to make everyone happy? That's clearly bullshit, as anyone with any sense would expect, nobody was happy after that. If she was guilty or they had a viable case she should have been indicted, if she wasn't or they didn't have a viable case they should have treated it as any other investigation and said their investigation didn't result in a prosecutable case. The email issue was never going away regardless of what was said, Republicans didn't need any evidence to believe the worst about Benghazi they sure as fuck weren't going to take any response other than an indictment when it came to the emails. The way the FBI and Director Comey framed it was to indict her in the court of public opinion instead of in a court of law where, as you pointed out, the bar for evidence is much higher. Obviously, I can't prove with what public information exists that this was something they planned, but it was something anyone could have predicted and that they with that awareness have responsibility for now that it played out in that very predictable and biased manner. > I thiink - no, I don't think, I know - that NONE of these accusations you're making would hold up in a courtroom with the evidence you've provided. It's just your feeling but in reality, you have as much evidence to back up the idea that comey did this on purpose, as people who claim that Hillary's bank speeches is unimpeachable proof she's in bed with wall street... its just not how the real world works, and when you indict comey with circumstantial and anecdotal evidence, you sink to the level of the people who did the same thing with Hillary. Of course they wouldn't hold up in a court room because none of it was illegal, it was simply unethical and a breach of rules but not laws (possibly the Hatch Act, I can't say with the information that is public). I'm content to take it a step back and say it was either rigged via incompetence or rigged via premeditation. The FBI's hand in the election is not something you can waive away purely because you can't prove intent with what information has been released publicly and the inconsistent treatment between the Trump case and the Clinton case was something Comey acted as if it had never occurred to him that they were handling those cases differently. You can believe that if you'd like, but I think that's utter bullshit and so we remain caught between him / them either being incompetent or corrupt but I see no room for anything else. Their optional actions had predictable, partisan consequences and they went through with them anyway. It's incompetence, corruption, or both.

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Save-Ferris1

A *theoretical* candidate like that would have a hard time. The GOP base despises "career politicians" so much, they think being qualified for a job is automatically disqualifying. It's like demanding a surgeon who has never been to medical school, or an OT level VII Scientologist to be your pharmacist.

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AATRWY

Come on, besides the fact that mansplain is an annoying word, you're not even using it right.

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AATRWY

Good thing we don't have Hillary in there. She would have coddled up to Wall Street way worse than this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/03/business/dealbook/trump-congress-financial-regulations.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=64873002&pgtype=Homepage

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HeyTherePLH

You're probably talking about April Ryan

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wi_voter

I'll admit to feeling a little bitter and wondering why some of the marchers couldn't have been with us knocking on doors back in October. I know some of them were, but many weren't. I feel like Dems we are always playing catch up because no one takes things seriously until the damage is done.

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thewhitesuburbankid

I heard from Steve Bannon's lackey that the protesters were paid.

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reedemerofsouls

And how many laid off coal miners are there? What about rich white guys? They don't care about Maya Angelou either.

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lliilloo

I saw a lot of posts that the March wasn't inclusive of POC and the LGBT community.

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jigielnik

>She didn't lose and it was rigged. I mean... just saying the opposite of what I said doesn't make any point. In fact, it makes you look childish. >The electoral college is a bad system but that's not what I was talking about and you know that. I mean... honestly, I did not know that. I really don't know what you mean because there's no *actual proof* of any rigging. >Which means you are okay with what happened and you're a part of the problem. WTF is wrong with you? Are you *trying* to alienate people? Or does it just make you feel better to say the things you feel are true are factually true and ignore the lack of evidence? I voted for Hillary in 08. I voted for her in 16. I am as strong a hillary supporter as you'll find, but I *will not* stoop to the level of republicans and accuse people of rigging the election based on evidence that would *never* hold up in a court of law.

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Bay1Bri

Well, SOMEONE completely missed the point...

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jigielnik

> You don't think the Comey statement in July was calculated? It was calculated to please both sides - no indictment, which pleased dems, but a scathing statement to please republicans - but not calculated to cause Hillary to lose the election. >You don't think the Comey letters in October/November were calculated? Nope. I think he was covering his own ass in case something had come of the Weiner computer after the election. >You don't think the FBI's decision to not reveal even the existence of their inquiry into Trump's Russia connection while simultaneously dragging Hillary through the mud in Comey's statement saying there wasn't a case lending credence to months of mounting Right-wing talking points was calculated? There's smoke, but no evidence of fire. The fact that comey did these things, and the fact that they had an impact, is not proof that he did those things to create that impact. It just isn't - that's not how proof works: correlation is not causation. One of the things that upset me most this election was that in America, you're innocent until proven guilty... unless you're hillary clinton, in which case you're guilty until proven innocent. So I won't do that with comey. I thiink - no, I don't think, I know - that NONE of these accusations you're making would hold up in a courtroom with the evidence you've provided. It's just your *feeling* but in reality, you have as much evidence to back up the idea that comey did this on purpose, as people who claim that Hillary's bank speeches is unimpeachable proof she's in bed with wall street... its just not how the real world works, and when you indict comey with circumstantial and anecdotal evidence, you sink to the level of the people who did the same thing with Hillary. >So if your criteria for you to agree to using the terminology of 'rigged' is pre-meditated or pre-planned...I don't think that's a problem here. Except that you have ZERO evidence to prove it was pre planned. There's always that.

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AATRWY

I haven't heard many arguments against the march itself. The only mildly controversial thing that I felt came up was whether pro-life groups should be able to sign up and march (they weren't allowed). Other than that, I imagine someone, somewhere, complained about the "vulgarity" of the term "pussy hats," but you're kind of stretching it with that one.

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wenchette

Gosh, if only there had been a candidate, one seasoned in international relations, perhaps even a former Secretary of State, I'll bet we wouldn't find ourselves in the middle of all these needless disasters.

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Rakajj

You don't think the Comey statement in July was calculated? You don't think the Comey letters in October/November were calculated? You don't think the FBI's decision to not reveal even the existence of their inquiry into Trump's Russia connection while simultaneously dragging Hillary through the mud in Comey's statement saying there wasn't a case lending credence to months of mounting Right-wing talking points was calculated? You can think all of that, but I disagree. I think it was calculated. I think his performance in the Congressional briefing in late January was absolutely dishonest and that he was fully aware of the hypocrisy he was guilty of committing. So if your criteria for you to agree to using the terminology of 'rigged' is pre-meditated or pre-planned...I don't think that's a problem here.

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32brownies

I am writing an essay for school about the woman's march. Can some people please tell me some arguments you have heard against it? Or if there is another place to post this that is better?

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jigielnik

>I presume when they say rigged they are referencing the FBI's multiple interventions and uneven handling of the Clinton and Trump cases. That's a government institution that should be non-partisan as possible in elections that overtly and demonstrably impacted the outcome of the election. That's still not "rigged" though... rigged implies a pre planning that simply did not take place. I'm not happy about the comey lettee or any of that, but I don't think it was a purposeful attempt to change the results of the election.

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Mol-lurker

Someone needs to get highlights of that game and play Enya's Only Time as the soundtrack

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Rakajj

Listen to Xi Jinping's speech in Davos last week (or better, [read](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/01/full-text-of-xi-jinping-keynote-at-the-world-economic-forum) it since it wasn't delivered in English). Does anyone seriously think that Donald Trump measures up to the Chinese President? Not even close, Trump is an intellectual featherweight that is going to get flopped on his back repeatedly by these much more intelligent, much more informed, much more serious world leaders who know how to play the game better. The real risk is that Trump will over-escalate to try and compensate for his lackluster ability. Beaten out in one way or another he falls back to the tools he crudely understands. Scary times ahead and it's very strange to have our own government draw the ire of the world justifiably. It's worse than 2003 and that's without considering that the scope of that international crisis was limited to Iraq.

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president_el_cucuy

Yeah that was absurd. Also lmfao at him citing Rasputin

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president_el_cucuy

Who is that black woman reporter who always pushes back at Spicer unlike most of those other reporters? I think her first name is April. I wonder how long before the White House finds a way to force her out. Spicer's answer to her question on what Trump has planned for black Americans was laughable. She said "other than law and order" so Spicer rambles off random meaningless categories. "Jobs, health care, law and order" He couldn't think of anything. This administration is going to be so incredibly anti-minority it'll make our heads spin.

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drtaylor4hillary

Chris Matthews always gives Kelly Ann an easy ride. They have known each other for years and while that shouldn't matter it does. I cant tell if he is attracted to her or thinks talking to her is like shooting fish in a barrell. Either way chris has never been impartial he loves you or hates you. In 08 he loved Obama and hated Hillary..in 16 he tolerated Hillary. But ultimately he is just a sleazy old white man. Can no longer tolerate HIM.

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drtaylor4hillary

Chris Matthews always gives Kelly Ann an easy ride. They have known each other for years and while that shouldn't matter it does. I cant tell if he is attracted to her or thinks talking to her is like shooting fish in a barrell. Either way chris has never been impartial he loves you or hates you. In 08 he loved Obama and hated Hillary..in 16 he tolerated Hillary. But ultimately he is just a sleazy old white man. Can no longer tolerate HIM.

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Rakajj

I presume when they say rigged they are referencing the FBI's multiple interventions and uneven handling of the Clinton and Trump cases. That's a government institution that should be non-partisan as possible in elections that overtly and demonstrably impacted the outcome of the election. It isn't rigging like skewing a vote tally is, but it's not a free and fair election when it has unethical, unjustified, unprecedented interference from government agencies impacting the result.

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sailigator

I'm watching the NM state senate talk about National Popular Vote right now.

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inowhazareddit

Where do I sign up?

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Tempest_Rider

*entire campaign

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inowhazareddit

Hate when female relatives feel the need to mansplain for others. We are here for you, and Hillary is out there fighting for people like you.

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GreyEidolon

I would like to take a minute to thank everyone here for the existence of this sub. I hardly comment nowadays, but having a check on the Trump bullshit is invaluable. Listening to the news directly right now feels a hell of a lot like being back in my abusive father's house...Kellyanne and Melania remind me of my father's enabling sisters who keep telling me "it's your mother's fault he's like this. She drove him crazy!" ...

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gonzoparenting

I seriously can't watch Spicer give Trump credit for the great economy after **ONE F!!KING MONTH**.

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Cstar62

Exactly. She had been on the cover of Time. It's more and more clear how triggered White men are by strong women.

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Maverick721

But but but the DNC were mean to Bernie!

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Cydgenie

So sad to see this.

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hillaryvasan2016

Sessions's vote is right after DeVos's. I haven't seen as much internet momentum to oppose him as I have for her. :(

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Rakajj

> Bernie would have helped the economy by growing it. It was the same message Drumphf used to win. That is not policy, that is an empty platitude. Please point me to the candidate that has ever run for political office while promising to not grow the economy. That promise is ubiquitous and Hillary made the same one, every politician does. It's the *HOW* that matters because that's what you're actually running on: The policy you want to put into place to address problems you've identified. Trump and Bernie both correctly identified some problems (whereas others they've entirely fabricated), but Trump's 'solutions' all fail to actually help the people who need it by appealing to poorly devised policy that far more closely resembles crony capitalism or the mercantilism of the 19th century than it does mainstream 21st century economic thought. Trump, like Bernie, lied about US manufacturing and promised to bring it back. That won't be happening, the data has proven it out that the losses have primarily been to automation and that jobs that were going to return would likely also be mitigated by automation and the costs to try and bring those jobs back (tariffs) will result in far more widespread economic problems with the cost to the consumer increasing and the net-gains all going to the owners of the automatons. Are you saying Hillary should have lied her ass off about what economists know is and isn't possible? Are you saying we should trust the opinions of arm-chair economists over people who have devoted their lives to professionally studying this subject? That's Trump logic and we have no space in the Democratic Party for that bullshit. PS: Ron Paul was an even bigger fraud than Bernie and you're fooling yourself if you think that man was remotely honest.

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Bay1Bri

> Bernie would have done much better if Hillary didnt actively subvert his campaign You mean, gasp, clinton tried to win the primary she was running for?? Shocking. And Clinton would have done much better is saint bernard didn't need to sooth his ego over doing what was best. Once it was clear he lost, he should have suspended his campign. But no, he called her unqualified, called her corrupt, called her bought by big banks (and hilariously couldn't name a single example of this when asked directly) and fed trump attack lines. Fuck bernie sanders, i want a candidate who has more than two talking points.

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AsterismAlex

Dude! ~~Spotify~~ Sufjan is the business! Glad to see him on the playlist. My song for today: https://open.spotify.com/track/6EOKTIIYJw7V2NDsTOxAFy

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RiverSnake412

Those laid off rust belt coal miners actually aren't very big on Maya Angelou.

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Bay1Bri

How do you figure? Clinton beat Sanders in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida. All of these states clinton either lost or won by a small margin. There is no reason to think any of them could have been won by sanders. SO while he may have won Michigan and Wisconsin, he would have lost all of the states I previously listed, and likely would have lost virginia. Please explain how he gets to 270.

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numeraire

wait, I can lower my taxes and declare a dependent child right after having sex?

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