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Re: New Sequences Window
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:54:46 -0500
From: Chris Garrigues <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
| I can't reproduce this error.
For me it is very repeatable... (like every time, without fail).
This is the debug log of the pick happening ...
18:19:03 Pick_It {exec pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace} {4852-4852 -sequence mercury}
18:19:03 exec pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace 4852-4852 -sequence mercury
18:19:04 Ftoc_PickMsgs {{1 hit}}
18:19:04 Marking 1 hits
18:19:04 tkerror: syntax error in expression "int ...
Note, if I run the pick command by hand ...
delta$ pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace 4852-4852 -sequence mercury
1 hit
That's where the "1 hit" comes from (obviously). The version of nmh I'm
using is ...
delta$ pick -version
pick -- nmh-1.0.4 [compiled on fuchsia.cs.mu.OZ.AU at Sun Mar 17 14:55:56 ICT 2002]
And the relevant part of my .mh_profile ...
delta$ mhparam pick
-seq sel -list
Since the pick command works, the sequence (actually, both of them, the
one that's explicit on the command line, from the search popup, and the
one that comes from .mh_profile) do get created.
kre
ps: this is still using the version of the code form a day ago, I haven't
been able to reach the cvs repository today (local routing issue I think).
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[zzzzteana] RE: Alexander
Martin A posted:
Tassos Papadopoulos, the Greek sculptor behind the plan, judged that the
limestone of Mount Kerdylio, 70 miles east of Salonika and not far from the
Mount Athos monastic community, was ideal for the patriotic sculpture.
As well as Alexander's granite features, 240 ft high and 170 ft wide, a
museum, a restored amphitheatre and car park for admiring crowds are
planned
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So is this mountain limestone or granite?
If it's limestone, it'll weather pretty fast.
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[zzzzteana] Moscow bomber
Man Threatens Explosion In Moscow
Thursday August 22, 2002 1:40 PM
MOSCOW (AP) - Security officers on Thursday seized an unidentified man who
said he was armed with explosives and threatened to blow up his truck in
front of Russia's Federal Security Services headquarters in Moscow, NTV
television reported.
The officers seized an automatic rifle the man was carrying, then the man
got out of the truck and was taken into custody, NTV said. No other details
were immediately available.
The man had demanded talks with high government officials, the Interfax and
ITAR-Tass news agencies said. Ekho Moskvy radio reported that he wanted to
talk with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Police and security forces rushed to the Security Service building, within
blocks of the Kremlin, Red Square and the Bolshoi Ballet, and surrounded the
man, who claimed to have one and a half tons of explosives, the news
agencies said. Negotiations continued for about one and a half hours outside
the building, ITAR-Tass and Interfax reported, citing witnesses.
The man later drove away from the building, under police escort, and drove
to a street near Moscow's Olympic Penta Hotel, where authorities held
further negotiations with him, the Moscow police press service said. The
move appeared to be an attempt by security services to get him to a more
secure location.
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[IRR] Klez: The Virus That Won't Die
Klez: The Virus That Won't Die
Already the most prolific virus ever, Klez continues to wreak havoc.
Andrew Brandt
>>From the September 2002 issue of PC World magazine
Posted Thursday, August 01, 2002
The Klez worm is approaching its seventh month of wriggling across
the Web, making it one of the most persistent viruses ever. And
experts warn that it may be a harbinger of new viruses that use a
combination of pernicious approaches to go from PC to PC.
Antivirus software makers Symantec and McAfee both report more than
2000 new infections daily, with no sign of letup at press time. The
British security firm MessageLabs estimates that 1 in every 300
e-mail messages holds a variation of the Klez virus, and says that
Klez has already surpassed last summer's SirCam as the most prolific
virus ever.
And some newer Klez variants aren't merely nuisances--they can carry
other viruses in them that corrupt your data.
...
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,103259,00.asp
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Re: [zzzzteana] Nothing like mama used to make
> in adding cream to spaghetti carbonara, which has the same effect on pasta as
> making a pizza a deep-pie;
I just had to jump in here as Carbonara is one of my favourites to make and ask
what the hell are you supposed to use instead of cream? I've never seen a
recipe that hasn't used this. Personally I use low fat creme fraiche because it
works quite nicely but the only time I've seen an supposedly authentic recipe
for carbonara it was identical to mine (cream, eggs and lots of fresh parmesan)
except for the creme fraiche.
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Re: [zzzzteana] Nothing like mama used to make
> I just had to jump in here as Carbonara is one of my favourites to make and
> ask
> what the hell are you supposed to use instead of cream?
Isn't it just basically a mixture of beaten egg and bacon (or pancetta,
really)? You mix in the raw egg to the cooked pasta and the heat of the pasta
cooks the egg. That's my understanding.
Martin
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[zzzzteana] Playboy wants to go out with a bang
The Scotsman - 22 August 2002
Playboy wants to go out with a bang
AN AGEING Berlin playboy has come up with an unusual offer to lure women into
his bed - by promising the last woman he sleeps with an inheritance of 250,000
(�160,000).
Rolf Eden, 72, a Berlin disco owner famous for his countless sex partners,
said he could imagine no better way to die than in the arms of an attractive
young woman - preferably under 30.
"I put it all in my last will and testament - the last woman who sleeps with
me gets all the money," Mr Eden told Bild newspaper.
"I want to pass away in the most beautiful moment of my life. First a lot of
fun with a beautiful woman, then wild sex, a final orgasm - and it will all
end with a heart attack and then I�m gone."
Mr Eden, who is selling his nightclub this year, said applications should be
sent in quickly because of his age. "It could end very soon," he said.
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Re: [zzzzteana] Nothing like mama used to make
Martin Adamson wrote:
>
> Isn't it just basically a mixture of beaten egg and bacon (or pancetta,
> really)? You mix in the raw egg to the cooked pasta and the heat of the pasta
> cooks the egg. That's my understanding.
>
You're probably right, mine's just the same but with the cream added to the
eggs. I guess I should try it without. Actually looking on the internet for a
recipe I found this one from possibly one of the scariest people I've ever seen,
and he's a US Congressman:
<http://www.virtualcities.com/ons/me/gov/megvjb1.htm>
That's one of the worst non-smiles ever.
Stew
ps. Apologies if any of the list's Maine residents voted for this man, you won't
do it again once you've seen this pic.
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[zzzzteana] Meaningful sentences
The Scotsman
Thu 22 Aug 2002
Meaningful sentences
Tracey Lawson
If you ever wanted to look like "one of the most dangerous inmates in prison
history", as one judge described Charles Bronson, now�s your chance. Bronson -
the serial hostage taker, not the movie star - has written a health and
fitness guide in which he shares some of the secrets behind his legendary
muscle power.
Solitary Fitness - a title which bears testament to the fact that Bronson, 48,
has spent 24 of his 28 prison years in solitary confinement - explains how he
has turned himself into a lean, mean, fitness machine while living 23 hours a
day in a space just 12 feet by eight feet, on a diet of scrubs grub and at
virtually no cost.
The book is aimed at those who want to get fabulously fit without spending a
fortune on gym memberships, protein supplements or designer trainers, and
starts with a fierce attack on some of the expensive myths churned out by the
exercise industry.
"I pick up a fitness mag, I start to laugh and I wipe my arse with it," is the
opening paragraph penned by Bronson. "It�s a joke and a big con and they call
me a criminal!" You can�t help feeling he has a point.
This is not the first book that Bronson has written from behind bars, having
already published Birdman Opens His Mind, which features drawings and poems
created by Bronson while in prison. And he is not the first prisoner to
discover creative expression while residing at Her Majesty�s pleasure.
Jimmy Boyle, the Scots sculptor and novelist, discovered his artistic talents
when he was sent to Barlinnie Prison�s famous special unit, which aimed to
help inmates put their violent pasts behind them by teaching them how to
express their emotions artistically. Boyle was sentenced to life for the
murder of "Babs" Rooney in 1967. Once released, he moved to Edinburgh where he
has become a respected artist. His first novel, Hero of the Underworld, was
published in 1999 and his autobiography, A Sense of Freedom, was made into an
award-winning film.
Hugh Collins was jailed for life in 1977 for the murder of William Mooney in
Glasgow, and in his first year in Barlinnie prison stabbed three prison
officers, earning him an extra seven-year sentence. But, after being
transferred to the same unit that Boyle attended, he learned to sculpt and
developed an interest in art. He later published Autobiography of a Murderer,
a frank account of Glasgow�s criminal culture in the 1960s, which received
critical praise.
And Lord Archer doesn�t seem to have had trouble continuing to write the books
that have made him millions while in jail. He recently signed a three-book
deal with Macmillan publishers worth a reported �10 million, and is no doubt
scribbling away as we speak.
So why is it that men like Collins, Bronson and Boyle, who can be so
destructive towards society on the outside, can become so creative once stuck
on the inside? Steve Richards, Bronson�s publisher, has published many books
about criminal figures and believes the roots of this phenomenon are both
pragmatic and profound.
He says: "Prison is sometimes the first time some criminals will ever have
known a stable environment, and this can be the first time they have the
chance to focus on their creative skills.
"It may also be the first time that they have really had the chance of an
education, if their early years have been hard. It could be the first time
anyone has offered them the chance to explore their creative talents."
However, Richards believes the reasons are also deeper than that. He says:
"Once they are behind bars, the cold light of day hits them, and they examine
the very essence of who they are.
"They ask themselves, am I a man who wants to be remembered for violence? Or
am I a man who can contribute to society, who can be remembered for something
good?"
Bronson - who was born Michael Gordon Peterson, but changed his name to that
of the Hollywood star of the Death Wish films - has, so far, been remembered
mainly for things bad. He was originally jailed for seven years for armed
robbery in 1974, and has had a series of sentences added to his original term
over the years as a result of attacking people in prison. In 2000 he was
jailed for life after being convicted of holding a teacher hostage for nearly
two days during a jail siege.
Standing five feet ten and a half inches tall and weighing 210lbs, he is
renowned for his strength. He has bent metal cell doors with his bare hands
and does up to 3,000 - yes, 3,000 - press-ups a day. As he puts it: "I can hit
a man 20 times in four seconds, I can push 132 press ups in 60 seconds."
But judging by our current obsession with health and exercise, Solitary
Fitness might be the book which will see Bronson�s face sitting on every
coffee table in the land. He might be the man to give us the dream body which
so many so-called fitness gurus promise but fail to motivate us into. Because
Bronson has learned to use words as powerfully as he can use his fists.
"All this crap about high-protein drinks, pills, diets, it�s just a load of
bollocks and a multi-million-pound racket," he writes, in what can only be
described as a refreshingly honest style. "We can all be fat lazy bastards,
it�s our choice, I�m sick of hearing and reading about excuses, if you stuff
your face with shit you become shit, that�s logical to me."
As motivational mantras go, that might be just the kick up the, er, backside
we all needed.
Solitary Fitness by Charles Bronson is published by Mirage Publishing and will
be available in bookstores from October at �7.99
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[SAtalk] SA CGI Configurator Scripts
I have been trying to research via SA mirrors and search engines if a canned
script exists giving clients access to their user_prefs options via a
web-based CGI interface. Numerous ISPs provide this feature to clients, but
so far I can find nothing. Our configuration uses Amavis-Postfix and ClamAV
for virus filtering and Procmail with SpamAssassin for spam filtering. I
would prefer not to have to write a script myself, but will appreciate any
suggestions.
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[SAdev] Interesting approach to Spam handling..
Hello, have you seen and discussed this article and his approach?
Thank you
http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html
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Re: [SAdev] Live Rule Updates after Release ???
Yes - great minds think alike. But even withput eval rules it would be very
useful. It would allow us to respond quickly to spammer's tricks.
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 07:27:52AM -0700, Marc Perkel wrote:
>
>>Has anyone though of the idea of live updates of rules after release? The
>>idea being that the user can run a cron job once a week or so and get the
>>new default rule set. This would allow us to react faster to:
>
>
> I suggested this a few months ago. I don't remember the details of what
> came out of it except that it would only be useful for non-eval rules
> since those require code changes.
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[ILUG] Re: Problems with RAID1 on cobalt raq3
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 03:08:16PM +0100, John P. Looney mentioned:
> This is likely because to get it to boot, like the cobalt, I'm actually
> passing root=/dev/hda5 to the kernel, not /dev/md0.
Just to solve this...the reason I was booting the box with
root=/dev/hda5, not /dev/md0 was because /dev/md0 wasn't booting - it
would barf with 'can't find init'.
It turns out that this is because I was populating md0 with tar. Which
seems to have 'issues' with crosslinked files - for instance, it was
trying to make a hard link of glibc.so to hda - and failing. It was only
as I did it again with a friend present, that he spotted the errors, and
queried them. We noticed that the hard linked files just didn't exist on
the new rootfs.
When we duplicated the filesystems with dump instead of tar, it worked
fine, I was able to tell lilo to use root=/dev/md0 and everything worked.
Woohoo.
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Re: New Sequences Window
--==_Exmh_-1317289252P
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> From: Chris Garrigues <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:40:39 -0500
>
> > From: Chris Garrigues <[email protected]>
> > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:17:45 -0500
> >
> > Ouch...I'll get right on it.
> >
> > > From: Robert Elz <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:30:01 +0700
> > >
> > > Any chance of having that lengthen instead? I like all my exmh stuff
> > > in nice columns (fits the display better). That is, I use the detache
> d
> > > folder list, one column. The main exmh window takes up full screen,
> > > top to bottom, but less than half the width, etc...
>
> I thought about that. The first order approximation would be to just add
> using pack .... -side top instead of pack ... -side left, however, since their
> each a different width, it would look funny.
I've done this. It's not as pretty as I think it should be, but it works.
I'm going to leave the cosmetic issues to others. When I update the
documentation, I'll add this to the exmh.TODO file.
I'm leaving for a 2 1/2 week vacation in a week, so this is the last new
functionality I'm going to add for a while. Also, I now have pretty much
everything in there that I want for my own use, so I'm probably pretty much
done. I'll work on bug fixes and documentation before my vacation, and
hopefully do nothing more afterwards.
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The case for spam
SpamAssassin is hurting democracy!
Owen
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http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/3900215.htm
Internet can level the political playing field
By Mike McCurry and Larry Purpuro
NOT many months from now, people across the country will experience one
of the great recurring features of American democracy. At shopping
malls, on factory floors, at church socials and even on our front
stoops, we will be approached by individuals who want to represent us in
public office. While chances are high that we won't know them
personally, they will walk up to us, offer a handshake and a flier and
ask for our votes.
Just as technology is affecting every other area of communication, it
has begun to affect the way political candidates communicate with voters.
In this year's GOP gubernatorial primary, California Secretary of State
Bill Jones, who faced better-funded candidates, acquired the e-mail
addresses of more than a million potential California voters and sent
each an unsolicited e-mail asking for support.
That day, he might have chosen any of the more traditional -- and more
expensive -- methods of contacting voters, such as direct mail, radio
spots or TV ads. But he spent only about 2 cents per message, instead of
35 cents or more per message for direct mail or in another medium.
Had Jones chosen direct mail, radio or TV, that communication would have
been equally ``unsolicited,'' as defined in the e-mail world. Few voters
would have ``opted in'' to receive campaign information from Jones
through any of those channels.
The response to Jones' e-mail effort, however, was swift and intense. He
was lambasted by anti-spam advocates, and media coverage was almost
entirely negative. To be fair, some of Jones' tactics could have been
refined. He used a less-than-perfect list and no standard-practice
``paid for'' disclaimer in the message.
His detractors, however, attacked him not for his tactical miscues but
because the e-mail was sent unsolicited. In fact, Jones' online campaign
may have been his most visible asset. In an era of cynicism toward money
in politics -- money typically spent on other unsolicited communication
mediums -- Jones tried to level the playing field.
No one likes commercial spam. It is irrelevant and untargeted and can be
highly intrusive and even offensive. But as a sophisticated society,
it's time to differentiate commercial spam from very different
unsolicited e-mail sent by political candidates to voters.
The debate is particularly relevant in light of legislation in Congress
that would constitute the first federal law to directly address spam. We
believe e-mail is no more intrusive than direct mail, telemarketing or
TV advertising when it comes to politicians seeking to reach voters. A
simple link in good e-mail campaigns allows recipients to opt out of
future mailings. Direct mail takes at least a phone call or stamp to be
taken off a list, and viewers must repeatedly endure TV ads.
When a candidate lacks a large campaign war chest, he or she can use the
Internet to provide constituents with information to better prepare them
to perform their civic duty of casting educated votes. With more than 60
percent of all potential voters in this country possessing e-mail
accounts, it makes sense that political candidates use this medium.
Candidates might avoid some of the tactical problems encountered by the
Jones campaign if they use the technologies available today that better
ensure quality of e-mail lists and target content to specific recipient
groups.
But the broader point remains. When a political candidate sends a voter
an e-mail, that recipient can choose to delete the message without
opening it, unsubscribe from the list, read it or even reply and engage
the sender. That choice should belong to the voter -- not to anti-spam
advocates whose efforts are better focused on commercial e-mail.
Political candidates should be free to communicate with voters as best
they can, and let voters decide what to do with that information.
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advocacy management and communications software company. Larry Purpuro,
the former Republican National Committee deputy chief of staff, is
founder and president of a political e-marketing firm. This was written
for the Los Angeles Times.
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[IIU] Eircom aDSL Nat'ing
Hi all,
apologies for the possible silly question (i don't think it is, but),
but is Eircom's aDSL service NAT'ed?
and what implications would that have for VoIP? I know there are
difficulties with VoIP or connecting to clients connected to a NAT'ed
network from the internet wild (i.e. machines with static, real IPs)
any help pointers would be helpful,
cheers
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[zzzzteana] Re: Australian Catholic Kiddie Perv Steps Aside
--- In forteana@y..., "D.McMann" <dmcmann@b...> wrote:
> Robert Moaby, 33, who sent death threats to staff, was also jailed
> for hoarding indecent pictures of children on his home computer.
> =========
>
> Hmm, if I didn't trust our government and secret police, I could
look at
> this another way....
There is a bit of circumstantial evidence - apparently some MT
listers were approached by him (via email) - a little research in
dejanews/google groups showed a number of messages from him, clearly
hoping to contact girls, appearing in "alt.teens" and similar groups -
I just tried a Google Groups search on "Robert Moaby" and some of
them came top of the list.
Note for Marie - "MT" stands for Mark Thomas, a slightly slimmer, UK
version of your Michael Moore - the mailing list is named after him.
Rob
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RE: [ILUG] Sun Solaris..
In a nutshell - Solaris is Suns own flavour of UNIX.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kiall Mac Innes [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 22 August 2002 17:23
> To: ILUG
> Subject: [ILUG] Sun Solaris..
>
>
> Can someone explain what type of operating system Solaris
> is... as ive never seen or used it i dont know wheather to
> get a server from Sun or from DELL i would prefer a linux
> based server and Sun seems to be the one for that but im not
> sure if Solaris is a distro of linux or a completely
> different operating system? can someone explain...
>
> Kiall Mac Innes
>
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[zzzzteana] Which Muppet Are You?
Apols if this has been posted before:
http://www.pinkpaperclips.net/subs/quiz2.html
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[ILUG] Sun Solaris..
Can someone explain what type of operating system Solaris is... as ive never
seen or used it i dont know wheather to get a server from Sun or from DELL i
would prefer a linux based server and Sun seems to be the one for that but
im not sure if Solaris is a distro of linux or a completely different
operating system? can someone explain...
Kiall Mac Innes
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Re: [zzzzteana] Which Muppet Are You?
> Apols if this has been posted before:
>
> http://www.pinkpaperclips.net/subs/quiz2.html
>
So, anyone who isn't Beaker?
TimC
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Re: [ILUG] Sun Solaris..
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 05:13:01PM +0100, Fergal Moran mentioned:
> In a nutshell - Solaris is Suns own flavour of UNIX.
Though I'm sure that this nice person would like a bit more detail.
Solaris is quite different to Linux, though these days you can make
solaris act a lot like linux with an extra CD of GNU tools Sun ship with
solaris. It is based on the SysV unix family, so it's quite similar to
other unixen like HPUX and SCO.
Sun's hardware in general is more reliable, and a lot more expensive. One
of the main bonuses you get by buying Sun is that you are getting your
hardware and software from one company, so if you have a support contract,
they have to fix it. They can't fob you off with 'that's a software
problem, talk to the software vendor.' etc.
If you are set on Linux, you most likely can do your own support. There
is then a world of different hardware options. You can run Linux on Sparc,
though some companies like RedHat don't maintain a sparc port anymore.
You can also buy your machine from linux-oriented companies like DNUK,
who do machines designed to run linux, and their own version of linux,
that has a few extras for their machines. Or, you can get a machine from a
cheaper company like Dell, and it'll most likely work, most of the time.
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Re: [ILUG] Sun Solaris..
John P. Looney wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 05:13:01PM +0100, Fergal Moran mentioned:
>
>>In a nutshell - Solaris is Suns own flavour of UNIX.
>
>
> Though I'm sure that this nice person would like a bit more detail.
>
> Solaris is quite different to Linux, though these days you can make
> solaris act a lot like linux with an extra CD of GNU tools Sun ship with
> solaris. It is based on the SysV unix family, so it's quite similar to
> other unixen like HPUX and SCO.
>
> Sun's hardware in general is more reliable, and a lot more expensive. One
> of the main bonuses you get by buying Sun is that you are getting your
> hardware and software from one company, so if you have a support contract,
> they have to fix it. They can't fob you off with 'that's a software
> problem, talk to the software vendor.' etc.
>
> If you are set on Linux, you most likely can do your own support. There
> is then a world of different hardware options. You can run Linux on Sparc,
> though some companies like RedHat don't maintain a sparc port anymore.
>
> You can also buy your machine from linux-oriented companies like DNUK,
> who do machines designed to run linux, and their own version of linux,
> that has a few extras for their machines. Or, you can get a machine from a
> cheaper company like Dell, and it'll most likely work, most of the time.
Why do you say Dell is cheaper than DNUK?
It gets a bit complicated though!
http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html
P�draig.
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Re: [zzzzteana] Which Muppet Are You?
Hey, it's not easy being green.
leslie
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Damn kermit...boring...
Wanna be rizzo he's the coolest
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Re: [ILUG] Sun Solaris..
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, John P. Looney wrote:
> > Sun's hardware in general is more reliable,
> ROFL. not in our experience.
Well at least our Caps-Lock keys work:
[email protected] said:
> Another problem. I have a Dell branded keyboard and if I hit Caps-Lock
> twice, the whole machine crashes (in Linux, not Windows) - even the on/
> off switch is inactive, leaving me to reach for the power cable
> instead.
:-P
[email protected] said:
> as if he wanted Solaris 9 for x86, he'd be waiting a bit
erm... it runs Solaris x86 as standard...
Cheers,
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RE: The Curse of India's Socialism
> You have multiple generations of
> peasants/squatters that cultivate and live on the lands almost as a
> human parts of the property package.
When I'd read that "getting legal title
can take 20 years", when I believe that
1 year ought to be more than sufficient,
(and helped by the Cairo reference) I'd
assumed that we were talking about the
urban poor.
If I see people living in mansions, or
even in suburban subdivisions, I assume
they didn't have too much trouble with
their titles.
If I see people living in shanties and
haphazard alleyways, I tend to assume
their parcels weren't exactly recorded
on the government maps, or paid for with
a bank loan, especially when nearby vacant
lots have shotgun wielding men presumably
intent on keeping them "development" free.
Now, it may be that "Manhattanites' view
of America" to say that outside of Metro
Manila, Davao, and maybe another city or
two (Cebu?), everything else (literally)
is the boondocks. But going on that very
broad assumption, I guess I'm describing
the flip side of Mr. Roger's experience:
the paisanos (who leave behind those who
remain on a patron's rural land) move to
Manila, and (the second assumption) squat
in shantytowns there, at least until they
can line up a middle-class job.
So, going on two large assumptions, I can
come up with a scenario under which title
would take 20 years: a shantytown arises
somewhere in the midst of a section (or
whatever the Spanish used to divvy up the
land) and it takes decades of arguing to
put together a package which somehow can
both compensate the owner and record lots
for the inhabitants. Just transferring
title to an existing lot, between parties
who have money, ought not to be a problem.
The obvious solution, at least to us
barking farting chihuahuas on FoRK, is
to "introduce market mechanisms". It is
left as an exercise to come up with one
which works when many of the agents (are
perceived to) have negligible NPV.
-Dave
> [land reform] meant that all the agricultural producers had
> to plant crops all the time (profitable or not) ...
What happened to more highly-capitalized
land? Putting in trees instead of crops
sounds like it might sidestep that.
> Mr. Long, I think you'd particularly enjoy the De Soto work.
On the "to find" list. Any chance of
an explanation of that "Bell Jar" in
the meantime?
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[ILUG] Newbie seeks advice - Suse 7.2
Folks,
my first time posting - have a bit of Unix experience, but am new to Linux.
Just got a new PC at home - Dell box with Windows XP. Added a second hard disk
for Linux. Partitioned the disk and have installed Suse 7.2 from CD, which went
fine except it didn't pick up my monitor.
I have a Dell branded E151FPp 15" LCD flat panel monitor and a nVidia GeForce4
Ti4200 video card, both of which are probably too new to feature in Suse's default
set. I downloaded a driver from the nVidia website and installed it using RPM.
Then I ran Sax2 (as was recommended in some postings I found on the net), but
it still doesn't feature my video card in the available list. What next?
Another problem. I have a Dell branded keyboard and if I hit Caps-Lock twice,
the whole machine crashes (in Linux, not Windows) - even the on/off switch is
inactive, leaving me to reach for the power cable instead.
If anyone can help me in any way with these probs., I'd be really grateful -
I've searched the 'net but have run out of ideas.
Or should I be going for a different version of Linux such as RedHat? Opinions
welcome.
Thanks a lot,
Peter
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Re: lifegem
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
--]Why wait until you're dead? I'm sure there's enough carbon in
--]the fat from your typical liposuction job to make a decent diamond.
So thats why I keep seeing DeBeers agents hovering around me.
-tom(diamonds in the folds of my flesh)wsmf
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Re: lifegem
Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
> Chris Haun wrote:
>
>> A LifeGem is a certified, high quality diamond created from the
>> carbon of your loved one as a memorial to their unique and wonderful
>> life.
>
>
> Why wait until you're dead? I'm sure there's enough carbon in
> the fat from your typical liposuction job to make a decent diamond.
>
> - Joe
>
Oh, hell - what about excrement? I'd love to be able to say - No, the
sun doesn't shine out of my ass, but there's the occasional diamond. ;-).
Owen
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Re: [ILUG] Formatting a windows partition from Linux
Update on this for anyone that's interested, and because I like closed
threads... nothing worse than an infinite while loop, is there?
I ended up formatting a floppy on my flatmate's (un-networked) P100 running
FAT16 Win95, and mcopied the contents of the bootdisk across. Now I have a
FAT16 Win98 install running alongside Slackware, and can play Metal Gear
Solid when the mood takes me ;)
/Ciaran.
On Wednesday 21 August 2002 16:21, Ciaran Johnston wrote:
> Dublin said:
> > If you copy the files from your disk to the c: partition and mark it as
> > active it should work ...
>
> Yeah, I figured that, but it doesn't seem to ... well, if that's the case
> I'll give it another go tonight, maybe come back with some error messages.
>
> Just to clarify for those who didn't understand me initially - I have a
> floppy drive installed, but it doesn't physically work. There's nowhere
> handy to pick one up where I am, and I don't fancy waiting a few days for
> one to arrive from Peats.
>
> Thanks for the answers,
> Ciaran.
>
> > You especially need io.sys, command.com and msdos.sys
> >
> > your cd driver .sys and read the autoexec.bat and config.sys files for
> > hints on what you did with your boot floppy <g>
> >
> > P
> >
> > On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 14:07, Ciaran Johnston wrote:
> >> Hi folks,
> >> The situation is this: at home, I have a PC with 2 10Gig HDDs, and no
> >> (working) floppy drive. I have been running Linux solely for the last
> >> year, but recently got the urge to, among other things, play some of
> >> my Windoze games. I normally install the windows partition using a
> >> boot floppy which I have conveniently zipped up, but I haven't any way
> >> of writing or reading a floppy.
> >> So, how do I go about:
> >> 1. formatting a C: drive with system files (normally I would use
> >> format /s c: from the floppy).
> >> 2. Installing the CDROM drivers (my bootdisk (I wrote it many years
> >> ago) does this normally).
> >> 3. Booting from the partition?
> >>
> >> I wiped all my linux partitions from the first drive and created
> >> partitions for Windows (HDA1) Slackware and RedHat. I used cfdisk for
> >> this. I made the first drive (hda) bootable. I then installed the
> >> windows partition in LILO and reran lilo (installed in MBR). I copied
> >> the contents of boot.zip to my new windows partition and tried to boot
> >> it - all I get is a garbled line of squiggles.
> >>
> >> Anyone any ideas? I can't think of anywhere in Athlone to get a new
> >> floppy drive this evening...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ciaran.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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public mailing list sign up package
Has anyone seen/heard of/used some package that would let a random person
go to a webpage, create a mailing list, then administer that list. Also
of course let ppl sign up for the lists and manage their subscriptions.
Similar to the old listbot.org, but i'd like to have it running on my
server not someone elses :)
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Entrepreneurs
An apparent quote from Dubya, from the Times (sent to me by my Dad):
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-43-351083,00.html
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TONY BLAIR's special relationship with George W. Bush is under
considerable strain. Not only do the two disagree on Yassir Arafat's
tenure as leader of the Palestinian Authority, but Blair has started
telling disparaging anecdotes about the President.
Baroness Williams of Crosby recalled a story told to her by 'my good
friend Tony Blair' recently in Brighton. Blair, Bush and Jacques
Chirac were discussing economics and, in particular, the decline of
the French economy. 'The problem with the French,' Bush confided in
Blair, 'is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur.'
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Re: [email protected]
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[ILUG] Re: Sun Solaris
Al white wrote:
>erm... it runs Solaris x86 as standard...
It runs Solaris 8 x86 as standard.
(I was joking Al)
M.
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Re: Encryption approach to secure web applications
Hi,
Thank you for the useful replies, I have found some interesting
tutorials in the ibm developer connection.
https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/j-sec1
and
https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/j-sec2
Registration is needed.
I will post the same message on the Web Application Security list, as
suggested by someone.
For now, I thing I will use md5 for password checking (I will use the
approach described in secure programmin fo linux and unix how-to).
I will separate the authentication module, so I can change its
implementation at anytime.
Thank you again!
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Re: [ILUG] Re: Sun Solaris
Mark Twomey joked:
> >erm... it runs Solaris x86 as standard...
>
> It runs Solaris 8 x86 as standard.
> (I was joking Al)
And will run Solaris 9 when Sun catch up with the x86 drivers and kernel.
Although don't hold your breath for the free DVD. It will never come.
(Spot the person who applied for the free Solaris 9 DVD, only to be told
three months later it is no longer available.<mutter>)
FWIW Solaris and Linux seem to be getting closer all the time. I can no
longer see any specific reason why one is better than the other. Expect Red
Hat Solaris 11 any time now... <grin>
- Matthew
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Re: Entrepreneurs
On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 10:58:34PM +0200, Robert Harley wrote:
> An apparent quote from Dubya, from the Times (sent to me by my Dad):
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-43-351083,00.html
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.htm
Claim: President George W. Bush proclaimed, "The problem with
the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur."
Origins: Yet another French fried "George W. Bush is dumb"
story has been taken up by those who like their caricatures
drawn in stark, bold lines. According to scuttlebutt that
emerged in the British press in July 2002, President Bush,
Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair, and France's President
Jacques Chirac were discussing economics and, in particular,
the decline of the French economy. "The problem with the
French," Bush afterwards confided in Blair, "is that they don't
have a word for entrepreneur."
The source was Shirley Williams, also known as the Baroness
Williams of Crosby, who claimed "my good friend Tony Blair" had
recently regaled her with this anecdote in Brighton.
Lloyd Grove of The Washington Post was unable to reach Baroness
Williams to gain her confirmation of the tale, but he did
receive a call from Alastair Campbell, Blair's director of
communications and strategy. "I can tell you that the prime
minister never heard George Bush say that, and he certainly
never told Shirley Williams that President Bush did say it,"
Campbell told The Post. "If she put this in a speech, it must
have been a joke."
This is far from the first time Bush has been made the butt of
a jibe meant to showcase what some perceive as his less than
stellar intellectual abilities. Without straining our memories
too hard, we can come up with three other instances we've
chronicled on this site. In the summer of 2001, the joke of the
moment centered upon a supposed study that had resulted in the
ranking of Presidential IQs, with George W. Bush being pegged
as the Chief Executive who scraped the bottom of the
intelligence barrel. In December 2000 it was a fake Nostradamus
quatrain which pontificated that the "village idiot" would win
the 2000 Presidential election. And in the spring of 2002, it
was the story of Bush's waving at Stevie Wonder that set folks
to chortling up their sleeves.
Stories that illustrate this widely believed intellectual
shortcoming will always waft after George W. Bush because they
seemingly confirm what many already hold as true about this
public figure, that he's not the brightest fellow that's ever
been. It is human nature to revel in yarns that the hearer at
some level agrees with, thus tales of this sort will always
fall upon appreciative ears.
Barbara "ears of corn" Mikkelson
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RE: [ILUG] Newbie seeks advice - Suse 7.2
hehe sorry but if you hit caps lock twice the computer crashes? theres one
ive never heard before... have you tryed Dell support yet? I think dell
computers prefer RedHat... (dell provide some computers pre-loaded with red
hat) i dont know for sure tho! so get someone elses opnion as well as
mine...
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Peter
Staunton
Sent: 22 August 2002 19:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ILUG] Newbie seeks advice - Suse 7.2
Folks,
my first time posting - have a bit of Unix experience, but am new to Linux.
Just got a new PC at home - Dell box with Windows XP. Added a second hard
disk
for Linux. Partitioned the disk and have installed Suse 7.2 from CD, which
went
fine except it didn't pick up my monitor.
I have a Dell branded E151FPp 15" LCD flat panel monitor and a nVidia
GeForce4
Ti4200 video card, both of which are probably too new to feature in Suse's
default
set. I downloaded a driver from the nVidia website and installed it using
RPM.
Then I ran Sax2 (as was recommended in some postings I found on the net),
but
it still doesn't feature my video card in the available list. What next?
Another problem. I have a Dell branded keyboard and if I hit Caps-Lock
twice,
the whole machine crashes (in Linux, not Windows) - even the on/off switch
is
inactive, leaving me to reach for the power cable instead.
If anyone can help me in any way with these probs., I'd be really grateful -
I've searched the 'net but have run out of ideas.
Or should I be going for a different version of Linux such as RedHat?
Opinions
welcome.
Thanks a lot,
Peter
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Re: [IIU] Eircom aDSL Nat'ing
At 17:10 22/08/2002 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> > apologies for the possible silly question (i don't think it is, but),
> > but is Eircom's aDSL service NAT'ed?
>
>No - you get unfiltered access with a real (but dynamic) IP address.
>
> > and what implications would that have for VoIP? I know there are
> > difficulties with VoIP or connecting to clients connected to a NAT'ed
> > network from the internet wild (i.e. machines with static, real IPs)
>
>You will probably suffer from the high latency of DLS lines. Typically,
>you're talking about 50ms RTT to the local bas, which is pretty high.
>If your voip application can handle this, then you're ok.
>
>Nick
what's the deal with all this latency? it's not like that in other places
where I've used dsl. i read some story about it being done that way to
allow greater distances to be covered or something like that. however, my
knowledge of physics is really only newtonian, and I don't understand how
worsening latency could possibly improve the reliability of a 2000 foot
long piece of copper. Perhaps it has something to do with stretching the
time-space continuum? can someone explain this in words of five syllables
or less?
a.
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Re: Entrepreneurs
Manoj Kasichainula wrote;
>http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.htm
>
>Claim: President George W. Bush proclaimed, "The problem with
>the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur."
>
>Status: False.
>Lloyd Grove of The Washington Post was unable to reach Baroness
>Williams to gain her confirmation of the tale, but he did
>receive a call from Alastair Campbell, Blair's director of
>communications and strategy. "I can tell you that the prime
>minister never heard George Bush say that, and he certainly
>never told Shirley Williams that President Bush did say it,"
>Campbell told The Post. "If she put this in a speech, it must
>have been a joke."
So some guy failed to reach the source, but instead got spin doctor to
deny it. Wot, is he thick enough to expect official confirmation
that, yes, Blair is going around casting aspersions on Bush???
It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not, but certainly
nothing here supports the authoritative sounding conclusion "Status: False".
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Re: The case for spam
Lucas Gonze:
>Spam is *the* tool for dissident news, since the fact that it's unsolicited
>means that recipients can't be blamed for being on a mailing list.
That depends on how the list is collected, or
even on what the senders say about how the list
is collected. Better to just put it on a website,
and that way it can be surfed anonymously. AND
it doesn't clutter my inbox.
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Re: Entrepreneurs
On 23 Aug 2002 at 2:57, Robert Harley wrote:
> It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not,
> but certainly nothing here supports the authoritative
> sounding conclusion "Status: False".
I actually thought it was pretty funny and quite accurate. Who cares if the spinmeisters are denying it?
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Re: [ILUG] Newbie seeks advice - Suse 7.2
< >
> I downloaded a driver from the nVidia website and installed it using RPM.
> Then I ran Sax2 (as was recommended in some postings I found on the net),
but
> it still doesn't feature my video card in the available list. What next?
hmmm.
Peter.
Open a terminal and as root type
lsmod
you want to find a module called
NVdriver.
If it isn't loaded then load it.
#insmod NVdriver.o
Oh and ensure you have this module loaded on boot.... else when you reboot
you might be in for a nasty surprise.
Once the kernel module is loaded
#vim /etc/X11/XF86Config
in the section marked
Driver I have "NeoMagic"
you need to have
Driver "nvidia"
Here is part of my XF86Config
Also note that using the card you are using you 'should' be able to safely
use the FbBpp 32 option .
Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
Load "xie"
Load "pex5"
Load "glx"
SubSection "dri" #You don't need to load this Peter.
Option "Mode" "666"
EndSubSection
Load "dbe"
Load "record"
Load "xtrap"
Load "speedo"
Load "type1"
EndSection
#Plus the Modelines for your monitor should be singfinicantly different.
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 28.00-35.00
VertRefresh 43.00-72.00
Modeline "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625
Modeline "1024x768" 49 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "neomagic" #Change this to "nvidia"... making sure the modules
are in the correct path
VendorName "Neomagic" # "Nvidia"
BoardName "NM2160"
BusID "PCI:0:18:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
#FbBpp 32 #Ie you should be able lto uncomment this line
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" # And add in higher resulutions as
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EndSubSection
EndSection
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Re: Entrepreneurs
According to my son, it was actually Homer Simpson, who claimed the
French had no word for victory.
Chuck
On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 01:58 PM, Robert Harley wrote:
> An apparent quote from Dubya, from the Times (sent to me by my Dad):
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-43-351083,00.html
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> TONY BLAIR's special relationship with George W. Bush is under
> considerable strain. Not only do the two disagree on Yassir Arafat's
> tenure as leader of the Palestinian Authority, but Blair has started
> telling disparaging anecdotes about the President.
>
> Baroness Williams of Crosby recalled a story told to her by 'my good
> friend Tony Blair' recently in Brighton. Blair, Bush and Jacques
> Chirac were discussing economics and, in particular, the decline of
> the French economy. 'The problem with the French,' Bush confided in
> Blair, 'is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur.'
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> R
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Re: Entrepreneurs
Whore eructed:
>--]It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not, but
>--]certainly nothing here supports the authoritative sounding conclusion
>--]"Status: False".
>
>So thats the trick, just let any anecdotal utterances you LIKE be deemed
>true [...]
Exsqueeze me, but what part of "I don't know if it's true or not"
did you fail to grok? I personally doubt it simply because I never
heard of Bush and Chirac going to Brighton.
Next time I hear a joke, I promise not to laugh until I have checked
out primary sources for confirmation in triplicate, OK? Good thing
we have you around to keep us on the straight and narrow, all the while
inundating us with such erudite profundities as "Kill your idols folks",
"fight the powers that be, from with out and from with in" and innumerable
other dippy bromides.
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FYI - gone this weekend
I won't be reading email until Sunday night or so. Good luck with
2.40 and don't do anything I wouldn't do. ;-)
- Dan
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Re: [ILUG] eircoms adsl modems
It will function as a router if that is what you wish.
It even looks like the modem's embedded OS is some kind of linux, being that
it has interesting interfaces like eth0.
I don't use it as a router though.... I just have it do the absolute minimum
DSL stuff and do all the really fun stuff like pppoe on my linux box........
Also the manual tells you what the default password is.
Don't forget to run pppoe over the alcatel speedtouch 350i as in my case you
'HAVE TO' have a bridge configured in the router/modem's software........
This lists your VCI values etc.
> Also, does anyone know if the high-end SpeedTouch, with
> 4 ethernet ports, can act as a full router or do I still
> need to run a pppoe stack on the linux box?
>
> Regards,
>
> Vin
>
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Re: Internet saturation (but not in Iceland)
>>>>> "E" == Eirikur Hallgrimsson <[email protected]> writes:
E> Gary's news service at teledyn.com has an article on Internet
E> Saturation. Let me ask you....If you were on a rock in the
E> middle of the Atlantic, mostly in the dark for half the year,
E> wouldn't *you* like a bit of internet distraction? They've
E> already done the obvious and fiber-ringed the island.
There's lots of similar places. Saskatchewan, for example, once
shared with Iceland the distinction of most telephone connections per
capita, and for a long time shared the internet penetration lead with
Iceland (Sask is a land-locked massive expanse of ultra-flat dust with
only two rivers and farm sizes measured in the
hundred-thousand-hectares).
It's still curious Iceland leads. Maybe there's just a deep cultural
curiousity and fascination with watching advertising from the rest of
the world. Maybe they're downloading Bjork videos.
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Re: Computational Recreations
On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 09:59 AM, Tom wrote:
> Post MG in the 80's there were the colums by A K Dewdney that I dug a
> bunch put into a book called Turing Omnibus and then there is , of
> course, all the goodens put out by Dougy Hoffstadler.
A.K. Dewdney was the name I was looking for and the column was "Computer
Recreations". Turns out he's still in Ontario and even has some homemade
Sci-Fi online...
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/faculty/akd/TALES/index.html
Vat Man
Programming Roger
The Homunculids
Alphie & Omega
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Re: [SAtalk] O.T. Habeus -- Why?
On 28 Aug 2002, Daniel Quinlan wrote:
> Dan Kohn <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > Daniel, it's easy enough for you to change the Habeas scores yourself
> > on your installation. If Habeas fails to live up to its promise to
> > only license the warrant mark to non-spammers and to place all
> > violators on the HIL, then I have no doubt that Justin and Craig will
> > quickly remove us from the next release. But, you're trying to kill
> > Habeas before it has a chance to show any promise.
>
> I think I've worked on SA enough to understand that I can localize a
> score. I'm just not comfortable with using SpamAssassin as a vehicle
> for drumming up your business at the expense of our user base.
I have to agree here. If Habeas is going to die just because SA does not
support it, that's a serious problem with the business model; but that is
nobody's problem but Habeas's.
A possible solution is for Habeas's business model to include some kind of
incentive for users of SA to give it the benefit of the doubt. I have yet
to think of an incentive that fits the bill ...
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Justin Mason wrote:
> I don't see a problem supporting it in SpamAssassin -- but I see Dan's
> points.
>
> - high score: as far as I can see, that's because SpamAssassin is
> assigning such high scores to legit newsletters these days, and the
> Habeas mark has to bring it down below that. :( IMO we have to fix
> the high-scorers anyway -- no spam ever *needs* to score over 5 in our
> scoring system, 5 == tagged anyway.
This is off the topic of the rest of this discussion, but amavisd (in all
its incarnations) and MIMEDefang and several other MTA plugins all reject
at SMTP time messages that scores higher than some threshold (often 10).
If some new release were to start scoring all spam no higher than 5.1,
there'd better be _zero_ FPs, because all those filters would drop their
thresholds to 5.
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Michael Moncur wrote:
> But I agree that there needs to be more focus on eliminating rules that
> frequently hit on newsletters. If any newsletters actually use the Habeas
> mark, that will be one way to help.
Newsletters won't use the mark. Habeas is priced way too high -- a factor
of at least 20 over what the market will bear, IMO -- on a per-message
basis for most typical mailing lists (Lockergnome, say) to afford it.
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Harold Hallikainen wrote:
> Habeus has come up with a very clever way to use existing law to battle
> spam. It seems that at some point they could drop the licensing fee to
> $1 or less and make all their income off suing the spammers for
> copyright infringement.
Sorry, that just can't work.
If the Habeas mark actually becomes both widespread enough in non-spam,
and effectively-enforced enough to be absent from spam, such that, e.g.,
SA could assign a positive score to messages that do NOT have it, then
spammers are out of business and Habeas has no one to sue. There's nobody
left to charge except the people who want (or are forced against their
will because their mail won't get through otherwise) to use the mark.
Conversely, if there are enough spammers forging the mark for Habeas to
make all its income suing them, then the mark is useless for the purpose
for which it was designed.
Either way it seems to me that, after maybe a couple of lawsuits against
real spammers and a lot of cease-and-desist letters to clueless Mom&Pops,
then either (a) they're out of business, (b) they have to sell the rights
to use the mark to increasingly questionable senders, or (c) they've both
created and monopolized a market for "internet postage stamps" that
everybody has to pay them for.
The latter would be quite a coup if they [*] could pull it off -- they do
absolutely nothing useful, unless you consider threatening people with
lawsuits useful, yet still collect a fee either directly or indirectly
from everyone on the internet -- effectively we'll be paying them for the
privilege of policing their trademark for them. I don't believe they'll
ever get that far, but I don't particularly want to help them make it.
[*] And I use the term "they" loosely, because the whole company could
consist of one lawyer if it really got to that point.
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[ILUG] Looking for a file / directory in zip file
Is there a way to look for a particular file or directory in 100's of zip
files??
Something like zgrep but for the filename instead of a word
Thanks Justin
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Re: [ILUG] Looking for a file / directory in zip file
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| Is there a way to look for a particular file or directory in 100's of zip
| files??
| Something like zgrep but for the filename instead of a word
|
| Thanks Justin
|
|
probably there are more elegant solutions, but if your zips are in one
directory you can do something like
for i in *.zip
do
if unzip -v $i | grep -q FILEYOUWANT
then
~ echo $i
fi
done
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[ILUG] Re: serial console...not quite working
John P. Looney stated the following on Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:31:11PM +0100 :
> I'm not sure what exactly is wrong with this, but I can't get a redhat
> 7.1 box to use ttyS0 as a console.
>
> The relevant bits of /boot/grub/grub.conf are:
>
> serial --unit=0 --speed=115200
> terminal --timeout=2 console serial
> title=linux
> root (hd0,4)
> kernel /boot/bzImage ro root=/dev/md0 console=ttyS0,115200n81
^
That 1 is unneeded and is probably whats upsetting your kernel
we use "console=ttyS0,9600n8" but the 9600 is mainly cos we are a cisco
shop and its to keepo everyhting the same.
Colin
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Re: [ILUG] eircoms adsl modems
Not true on the choice part.
After three weeks of me telling eircom that I did not in fact need nor want
their ?1800 worth of router and firewall
nor their onsite survey... for the uncapped service I actually managed to
get a 4 port modem (after asking for a 1 port modem) instead of ye olde
hardware router & firewall and eircom onsite.
I would have argued for the 1 port modem... (which I had asked for), but a
Director wanted the DSL up ... and fast....
Still it only took me three weeks to get (almost) what I
wanted....................................
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/nireland/ni_team.shtml
first of a very short series.
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[IIU] Viruses and Bounced Mail
All,
Is it just me or has there been a massive increase in the amount of email
being falsely bounced around the place? I've already received email from a
number of people I don't know, asking why I am sending them email. These
can be explained by servers from Russia and elsewhere. Coupled with the
false emails I received myself, it's really starting to annoy me. Am I the
only one seeing an increase in recent weeks?
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[scoop] Scoop MS Word .doc file into something that plucker or other Palm app can display?
I am wondering whether there's a way that I can use sitescooper and/or plucker
or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit
more palmos friendly?
I don't have a Windows machine, so it becomes problematic to convert them;
I know that if this were not the case, in Word I could save them as some
other more friendly format.
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Re: [scoop] Scoop MS Word .doc file into something that plucker or other Palm app can display?
Good Day!
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 05:10:47PM -0400, Larry W. Virden wrote:
> I am wondering whether there's a way that I can use sitescooper and/or plucker
> or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit
> more palmos friendly?
You could try antiword (http://www.winfield.demon.nl/linux/).
It's consoled based and converts word 6+ docs to text and some images to
postscript and png. You could also try openoffice and/or abiword if you
have x installed.
> I don't have a Windows machine, so it becomes problematic to convert them;
> I know that if this were not the case, in Word I could save them as some
> other more friendly format.
Great! ;)
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Re: [scoop] Scoop MS Word .doc file into something that plucker or other Palm app can display?
On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 19:27, Barry Dexter A. Gonzaga wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 05:10:47PM -0400, Larry W. Virden wrote:
> > I am wondering whether there's a way that I can use sitescooper and/or plucker
> > or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit
> > more palmos friendly?
>
> You could try antiword (http://www.winfield.demon.nl/linux/).
> It's consoled based and converts word 6+ docs to text and some images to
> postscript and png.
also there's catdoc and wv for Word --> text conversions. actually, wv
consists of wvWare, which as the manpage says "converts word documents
into other formats such as PS, PDF, HTML, LaTeX, DVI, ABW". HTML would
probably be the best format for use with Plucker/SiteScooper, depending
on how good the DOC --> HTML conversion is. i haven't used either in
over a year as AbiWord or OpenOffice work well enough. (prefer AbiWord
for it's light-weight size, but OpenOffice has the better DOC importer.)
don't know which of these are better or worse than the other, but i
figure, "the more the merrier". ;-)
> You could also try openoffice and/or abiword if you
> have x installed.
AbiWord supports exporting to PalmDoc (.pdb) which is about as
PalmOS-friendly as you can get. never tried/needed it, but it's listed
there in the "Save As" dialog box.
Wine (or CrossOver Office, if you already have it) may support Word
Viewer (free download from Microsoft), but didn't a year or so ago when
i last tried. Word Viewer is what i used back in the day to convert
Word 97 docs to Word 95, as you could display the Word 97 doc and copy &
paste the text (with formatting) into Word 95, which was the only
version of Word that i had. anyways, a little nostalgia.
> > I don't have a Windows machine, so it becomes problematic to convert them;
> > I know that if this were not the case, in Word I could save them as some
> > other more friendly format.
i have a windows (dual-boot) machine, but it only get used by my
significant other and for burning multi-session cd-r/rw. (is there any
linux gui app that supports cdrecord's multi-session feature?) since
OpenOffice, i've been able to edit Word docs flawlessly (or at least the
simple Word documents i receive from others).
anyways...
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Tiny DNS Swap
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Thank you
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> =A0
> We have a static IP, DSL line and a 24/7 set of web, SQL, mail and now=20=
> a DNS server.=A0 As I said, we are hosting about 10 web sites, web and=20=
> DNS traffic is almost nothing.=A0 Everything is on lightly loaded APC=20=
> battery backups so we are very seldom down.
> =A0
> I'd like to swap with someone also using Simple DNS to take advantage=20=
> of the trusted zone file transfer option.
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> Bob Musser
> Database Services, Inc.
> Makers of:
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> =A0=A0 Courier Service Toolbox
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Bob
We are a commercial company who host around 150 web sites on each of
it servers, we can=B4t swap with you because we need someone in a
similar position.
Thank you
Javier=20
El Viernes, 30 agosto, 2002, a las 10:25 AM, Bob Musser escribi=F3:
<excerpt><smaller>I'm using Simple DNS from JHSoft.=A0 We support only a
few web sites and I'd like to swap secondary services with someone in
a similar position.</smaller>
=A0
<smaller>We have a static IP, DSL line and a 24/7 set of web, SQL,
mail and now a DNS server.=A0 As I said, we are hosting about 10 web
sites, web and DNS traffic is almost nothing.=A0 Everything is on
lightly loaded APC battery backups so we are very seldom down.</smaller>
=A0
<smaller>I'd like to swap with someone also using Simple DNS to take
advantage of the trusted zone file transfer option.</smaller>
=A0
=A0
=A0
<smaller>Bob Musser
Database Services, Inc.
Makers of:
=A0=A0 Process Server's Toolbox
=A0=A0 Courier Service Toolbox
<underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>[email protected]
www.dbsinfo.com
</color></underline>106 Longhorn Road
Winter Park FL 32792
(407) 679-1539</smaller>
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Since then, he has invented 'warchalking', which he recently
described as a 'curse'..."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/2210091.stm
- but you cannot turn against me! I... created you!
>> HARD NEWS <<
stiffening sinews
More hot summer days in the mailinglist alleyways,
dangerously empty of sane postings, strewn with the rotting
carcasses of broiling vacation messages. Hacktress and
Silicon Valley's chief rat-keeper LILE ELAM, excitedly posts
about a new open 802.11 network she's found. "I am here at
the police station waiting to see a judge and I thought I
would check to see if there is connectivity", she writes,
somewhat recklessly, to the Bay Area Wireless list. Exit
the rest of the Wifi community through the nearest window
and out into the streets... where, cooling tempers, the
Microsoft Palladium boys are on an endless summer tour,
reassuring the experts that while, hmm, they *suppose* Pd
could *theoretically* be used as a Hollywood DRM system,
they truly have no plans to do any such thing. Cypherpunk
and friend of freedom Lucky Green hears this; thinks up four
or five of the obvious Palladium DRM implementations; sends
them off to be patented in his name. Licensing funds, we
imagine, will go on cracking his own DRMs. And so the mail
loops on.
http://lists.bawug.org/pipermail/wireless/2002-August/008507.html
- administrivia: HI MOM, I'M IN JAIL
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg02554.html
- Green/Palladium, like Green Kryptonite
Could Lucky get himself arrested under the DMCA for
distributing a circumvention device? Worse: now we have the
EUCD incoming, could he here in the UK? Will Alan Cox go to
jail for posting detailed Changelogs? Will even the nicest
UK cryptographer (or curious garage tinkerer) find
themselves hauled up under our new and scarily DMCAish
copyright regime? Find out the facts at the free FAIR DEAL
FOR COPYRIGHT conference, organised by the irrepressible
FOUNDATION FOR INFORMATION POLICY RESEARCH for Wednesday
2002-09-18 at the London School of Economics. All the usual
fun from the creators of the Scrambling for Safety crypto
cons: we confidently predict government spokesmen caught in
headlights, wanton Dave Bird heckling, some industry bigwig
fighting off the audience with a broken chairleg, and other
epiphenomena of the interzone between legal minds and hacker
ethics. Oh, and FIPR are still looking for a Programme
Director, so if you're interested, let them know. We
suggested a convention raffle (first prize: the director's
job, second prize: Ross Anderson as your personal slave for
a day). They say there's some rule that would break, though.
http://www.fipr.org/vacancy.html
- doesn't the Foundation use psychohistory for filling these positions?
For those of us who can't read the abbreviation EULA without
thinking of Martian fighting machines and their "deafening
howls... which roared like thunder", we're sorry to report
that this weekend's multimedia performance of Jeff Wayne's WAR
OF THE WORLDS has been postponed due to "health and safety
issues". The event was to feature computer graphics,
fireworks, "60ft-tall Martian fighting machines" wreaking
"havoc and destruction", and - most terrifyingly of all - the
possibility of a David Essex tribute singer performing with
Hawkwind, but UKP18 tickets for the Sat 2002-08-31 show at
Manchester's Heaton Park will still be valid at a range of new
venues next summer. Ironically, the Martians' original
invasion plans were similarly thwarted by health and safety
issues, "slain after all man's devices had failed by the
humblest creatures that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this
earth: bacteria. Minute, invisible, bacteria. For, directly
the invaders arrived and drank and fed, our microscopic allies
attacked them..."
http://www.waroftheworlds.info/postpone.htm
- "...From that moment, they were doomed."
>> ANTI-NEWS <<
berating the obvious
moving on from PUERILE GOOGLE MISSPELLINGS, weird search-and-
replace artefact: http://www.google.com/search?q=consideyellow ,
Japanese fan sites for "plince", "steery dan", "def reppard"
et al, plus the 18,000 or more self-referential Usenet .sigs:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22get+random+signatures%22
...http://www.colocation-network.com/ "Zerodowntime" ad leads
to: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohzero.gif ... slightly
harsh alt text: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohover.gif ...
US military discovers the only "translator" those bastards
seem to understand: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohgun.gif
... scary blue men herald return of the bizarre BBC hacking
pics: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/1494091.stm ... reporter RYAN
DILLEY http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2202552.stm pulls his
http://starwars.org.pl/galeria/e2/char/anakin/t001.jpg face
... banjo maestro GEORGE FORMBY still alive, cooking, black:
http://www.readersheds.co.uk/readersheds/shop.cfm?WOSNAMES=Wosnames
... thanks guys, that ought to do it: http://www.eap.ca/ ...
>> EVENT QUEUE <<
goto's considered non-harmful
Controversially, we're all in favour of THE GUARDIAN GREAT
BRITISH BLOG COMPETITION (closing date next Fri 2002-09-06,
first prize UKP1000, entry free), in that any initiative that
encourages this notoriously primadonna-ish "community" to try
and engage with real-world notions of editorial quality surely
has to be a good thing. Our only disappointment is that The
Guardian appears to be focussing on the "best" of the entries,
when everyone knows the real fun is to be had cruising the
truly terrible examples that the genre has to offer, mentally
allocating points for "Most Depressing Recycling Of Daypop Top
40 URLs", "Most Unsettling Revelations About Personal Life",
plus of course "Most Tedious Linking/Reciprocal Linking To Other
Bloggers In Absence Of Having Anything Interesting To Say".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weblog/bestbritishblog/
- "A strange game, Professor Falken..."
http://media.guardian.co.uk/newmedia/comment/0,7496,765161,00.html
- "...the only winning move is not to play."
>> TRACKING <<
sufficiently advanced technology : the gathering
The respective trademark holders will hate this, but
Windows really *is* like the Sun. You have this big hulking
mass of concentrated power in the middle, with a few small
orbiting utilities - like WinZip, and PuTTY, and VNC.
Occasionally one will get a bit too close to the OS, and
Microsoft will suck it down and turn it into fuel for the
System. One such discrete satellite remains FILEZILLA, the
still-necessary ftp gui client for Windows. Those who know
it won't need the introduction, although they might
appreciate the note that it's getting close to v2.0 time.
For dogged WS_FTP users, though, it's got multiple
downloads, auto-restart of interrupted 'loads, queuing, and
sftp and Kerberos support. It's also GPL'd which makes it a
nice bit of source for anyone wanting to grok Win32
networking from something that works.
http://filezilla.sf.net/
- talking of trademarks, will the Godzilla people strike before MS?
>> MEMEPOOL <<
ceci n'est pas une http://www.gagpipe.com/
(Not safe for work) next year's RED NOSE DAY looks more fun
than usual: http://www.threepillows.com/tour2.htm ... Mirrored
Disaster Recovery Suite - to go with mirrored bathroom etc?:
http://www.dovebid.com/Auctions/AuctionDetail.asp?AuctionID=1450
... and then the kid can take you to court for mental cruelty:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/08/27/turok.baby.reut/ ...
"funny" prefixes in front of "chalking" #n+1 - the actually
quite pragmatic: http://www.pinkbunny.co.uk/poochalking/ ...
no longer knowing - or caring - if these are prank AMAZON
reviews or not, for Potter's ever-popular "vibrating" broom:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/toys/B00005NEBW/
... ditto "Use This Software At Your Own Risk" disclaimer for:
http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=41030
... DAFFY DUCK appears in dock - accused of "dethpicable"
behaviour?: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2223065.stm ,
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_659889.html ...
>> GEEK MEDIA <<
get out less
TV>> celebrity cameo night tonight, with Brad Pitt in FRIENDS
(9pm, Fri, C4), Sydney Pollack in WILL AND GRACE (9.30pm, Fri,
C4), Dustin Hoffman in V GRAHAM NORTON (10.30pm, Fri, C4), and
a singing, dancing peanut in globalised trade documentary ALT-
TV (7.30pm, Fri, C4)... the BBC have kept McEnroe and the
heart monitor, got rid of the live crocodiles in gimmicky
quizshow THE CHAIR (6.40pm, Sat, BBC1)... and a month of
"September 11th" specials kicks off with AVENGING TERROR (8pm,
Sat & Sun, C4) - yet those responsible for BOWFINGER (9pm,
Sat, C4) and NOTTING HILL (9pm, Sun, C4) still remain
unpunished... John "The Last Seduction" Dahl's ROUNDERS (11pm,
Sat, BBC2) turns out to be about high-stakes poker, rather
than the girls' version of baseball... in the wake of DAVE
GORMAN'S IMPORTANT ASTROLOGY EXPERIMENT (10.40pm, Sun, BBC2),
how about a three-way challenge where he, Tony Hawks and Pete
McCarthy battle to come up with the most lucrative pointless
pretext for a book and TV show?... but we still have a soft
spot for Ron "Alien: Resurrection" Perlman liberal self-
flagellation THE LAST SUPPER (11.20pm, Sun, C4)... 9/11 CLEAR
THE SKIES (9pm, Sun, BBC2) is a presumably uneventful account
of "how US air defence systems responded to the events of
September 11th"... inexplicably, the three finalists in THE
TARTIEST MEN IN BRITAIN (10.30pm, Mon, ITV) all come from
Leeds... Larry Clark takes a somewhat indirect approach to
conveying his safe-sex message in New York filth-fest KIDS
(1.15am, Tue, C4)... and the September 11th build-up continues
with HOW THE TWIN TOWERS COLLAPSED (8pm, Mon, C4), LET'S ROLL:
THE STORY OF FLIGHT 93 (10.30pm, Wed, ITV), plus THE MEYSSAN
CONSPIRACY (11.05pm, Tue, C4) - ie the French guy behind:
http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm
... away from the polluted nightmare of modern living, a
family seek out a new way of life in Earth Summit tie-in A
LAND WORTH LOVING (7pm, Wed, BBC1)... which coincidentally
also forms the plot of this week's second Heather "Bowfinger"
Graham turkey, LOST IN SPACE (7.55pm, Wed, BBC1) - not to be
confused with the return of those annoying posh women in
WORLD'S WORST DRESSED (8pm, Wed, BBC2), who have at least shut
up about their always-doomed hideously purple e-commerce
site: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/712188.stm ...
FILM>> the comic skills of Cameron Diaz, Christina Applegate
and Parker Posey combine in a cross between a teen smut comedy
and an episode of "Sex And The City", THE SWEETEST THING
( http://www.screenit.com/movies/2002/the_sweetest_thing.html :
As [Diaz] and [Applegate] drive down the road still dressed in
just their bras and underwear, [Applegate] drops her bottle of
fingernail polish. [Diaz] then goes over to get it, with
her panty-covered butt in the air and her head down toward
[Applegate]'s legs and crotch; [Selma Blair] [has] her mouth
stuck around a man's privates after apparently performing oral
sex on him)... Robin Williams plays a surprisingly convincing
Hannibal Lecter in morally complicated Alaskan Al Pacino
murder madness INSOMNIA ( http://www.cndb.com/ : You can see
[Crystal Lowe's] tits in autopsy photos and again - along with
bush - when she's seen on a autopsy table. Nice boobs but
she's dead)... it's Eddie Murphy, Randy Quaid, Jay "Jerry
Maguire" Mohr, John Cleese and Pam Grier - together at last! -
in blaxploitation sci-fi spoof THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH
( http://www.screenit.com/movies/2002/the_adventures_of_pluto_nash.html :
the woman then causes the image of [Rosario "Kids" Dawson] to
suddenly have much larger breasts and an exaggeratedly large
rear end)... all of which, shockingly, are an improvement on
John Woo interspersing lame battle scenes with agonising anti-
racist philosophising in WW2 Navajo crypto clunker WINDTALKERS
( http://www.capalert.com/capreports/windtalkers.htm :
gambling; beheading; brief partial nudity of a Japanese
soldier; I have no doubt that such gore is present in war but
must it be regurgitated in and as entertainment?)...
>> SMALL PRINT <<
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//this function should print all numbers up to 100...
void print_nums()
{
int i;
for(i = 0; i < 10l; i++) {
printf("%d\n",i);
}
}
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Hello!
Friday, August 30, 2002, 7:25:31 PM Bob Musser <[email protected]> wrote:
[lost]
BM> I'd like to swap with someone also using Simple DNS to take
BM> advantage of the trusted zone file transfer option.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are you speaking about limiting AXFR requests on IP address basis? If
yes, then virtually every BIND-equipped DNS server in the world will
be suitable for your needs.
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[Ximian Updates] Hyperlink handling in Gaim allows arbitrary code to be executed
Severity: Security
Product: gaim
Keywords: gaim hyperlink manual
References:
CAN-2002-0989
http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2002-0989
Gaim Changelog
http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog
Gaim is an instant messaging client based on the published TOC
protocol from AOL. The developers of Gaim, an instant messenger client
that combines several different networks, found a vulnerability in the
hyperlink handling code. The 'Manual' browser command passes an
untrusted string to the shell without escaping or reliable quoting,
permitting an attacker to execute arbitrary commands on the users
machine. Unfortunately, Gaim doesn't display the hyperlink before the
user clicks on it. Users who use other inbuilt browser commands aren't
vulnerable.
The fixed version of Gaim no longer passes the user's manual browser
command to the shell. Commands which contain the %s in quotes will
need to be amended, so they don't contain any quotes. The 'Manual'
browser command can be edited in the 'General' pane of the
'Preferences' dialog, which can be accessed by clicking 'Options' from
the login window, or 'Tools' and then 'Preferences' from the menu bar
in the buddy list window.
Please download Gaim 0.59.1 or later using Red Carpet. You may also
obtain this update from the Ximian FTP site.
Debian Potato
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/debian-potato-i386/gaim_0.59.1-1.ximian.2_i386.deb
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/debian-potato-i386/gaim-common_0.59.1-1.ximian.2_i386.deb
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/debian-potato-i386/gaim-gnome_0.59.1-1.ximian.2_i386.deb
Mandrake 8.0
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/mandrake-80-i586/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i586.rpm
Mandrake 8.1
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/mandrake-81-i586/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i586.rpm
Mandrake 8.2
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/mandrake-82-i586/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i586.rpm
Redhat 6.2
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-62-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-62-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
Redhat 7.0
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-70-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-70-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
Redhat 7.1
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-71-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-71-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
Redhat 7.2
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-72-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-72-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
Redhat 7.3
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-73-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-73-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
Solaris 7/8
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/solaris-7-sun4/gaim-0.59.1-2.ximian.1.sparc.rpm
SuSE 7.1
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-71-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-71-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
SuSE 7.2
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-72-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-72-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
SuSE 7.3
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-73-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-73-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
SuSE 8.0
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-80-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-80-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm
Yellowdog 2.0
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-20-ppc/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-20-ppc/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm
Yellowdog 2.1
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-21-ppc/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-21-ppc/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm
Yellowdog 2.2
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-22-ppc/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-22-ppc/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm
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alsa-driver rebuild fails with undeclared USB symbol
I am trying to rebuild the recently posted ALSA driver package for my
kernel. Although I run Red Hat 7.3, I am not using a Red Hat kernel
package: my kernel is lovingly downloaded, configured, and built by
hand. Call me old fashioned.
Sadly, the RPM rebuild fails part way through:
% rpm --rebuild alsa-driver-0.9.0rc3-fr6.src.rpm
gcc -DALSA_BUILD -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE=1 \
-I/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/alsa-driver-0.9.0rc3/include \
-I/lib/modules/2.4.18/build/include -O2 \
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -DLINUX -Wall \
-Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -DEXPORT_SYMTAB \
-c sound.c
sound.c:41: `snd_hack_usb_set_interface' undeclared here (not in a \
function)
sound.c:41: initializer element is not constant
sound.c:41: (near initialization for \
__ksymtab_snd_hack_usb_set_interface.value')
make[1]: *** [sound.o] Error 1
The line in question looks like this:
/* USB workaround */
#if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(2, 5, 24)
#if defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO) || \
defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO_MODULE) || \
defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_MIDI) || \
defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_MIDI_MODULE)
-41->
EXPORT_SYMBOL(snd_hack_usb_set_interface);
#endif
#endif
Any suggestions?
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Re: The case for spam
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Bill Stoddard wrote:
>>No one likes commercial spam.
>>
>>
>And no one like unsolicited political spam. End of story.
>
>Bill
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>
Except perhaps for the people in charge.
Owen
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-954903.html
*Political spam on your cell phone?*
By Lisa M. Bowman <mailto:[email protected]>
Special to ZDNet News
August 22, 2002, 12:05 PM PT
URL: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-954909.html
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*In a decision that treats text messaging on mobile phones essentially
the same as bumper stickers, the Federal Election Commission has
declared that senders of text-based political ads don't have to disclose
who funded them.*
In an advisory opinion issued Thursday, the FEC also suggested such
messages include either a phone number or Web site link, so people could
easily learn who paid for the message. However, the additional
information won't be required.
The opinion could encourage the adoption of text-based political ads, as
campaign experts look for new technological ways to sway voters. At the
same time, opponents of the plan fear it could lead to anonymous
political spam.
Target Wireless, a small New Jersey-based wireless media company, had
asked the FEC for an opinion on the matter, saying that requiring
financial disclosures on short messaging service (SMS) mailings would
use up too much of the 160 character-maximum.
Political messages on bumper stickers and buttons are also exempt from
the financial disclosure requirement. Target Wireless' petition was
supported by the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the Cellular
Telecommunications and Internet Association, and some advertising trade
groups.
FEC spokesman Bob Biersack said the opinion was in keeping with the
commission's policy not to meddle with new technology that has the
potential to reach more voters.
"We have tried very hard not to get in the way--particularly before
everyone understands how the technology is going to work," he said.
Opponents of the plan have worried the exemption might encourage spam or
allow senders to blast people with mass amounts of negative political
messages while remaining anonymous.
Biersack said the FEC can revisit the issue if those problems surface.
Target Wireless President Craig Krueger characterized the opinion as
"good for America."
"It will allow people to receive more communication from those running
for office," he said. "We have free speech on our side."
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Re: Entrepreneurs
On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Robert Harley wrote:
--]Next time I hear a joke, I promise not to laugh until I have checked
--]out primary sources for confirmation in triplicate, OK?
Oh please. Walking sideways like that is bad for your shoes.
Though it is kinda cute when you get all reasonomatic
bang bang
have a nice day.
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Re: The case for spam
Dan Brickley wrote:
> Except that thanks to the magic of spam, it's usually some else's locale
yeah, physical mail makes more sense for physical locales.
> There are better technical solutions to privacy
> protection than sending a copy of the same message to everyone on the
> Internet, so the recipients can't be blamed for reading it.
Such as?
Anything equivalent will be spam, just not email spam. Dump entry IPs for
an anonymizing network onto a public bulletin board that's used for other
purposes -- still spam. Etc etc.
I'm not arguing against other solutions, I'm arguing that spam is speech.
If you let governments ban it, you're giving them the power to choose who
gets to speak.
- Lucas
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Re: The case for spam
me:
> >Spam is *the* tool for dissident news, since the fact that it's unsolicited
> >means that recipients can't be blamed for being on a mailing list.
>
Russell Turpin:
> That depends on how the list is collected, or
> even on what the senders say about how the list
> is collected. Better to just put it on a website,
> and that way it can be surfed anonymously. AND
> it doesn't clutter my inbox.
It doesn't work that way. A website is opt-in, spam is no-opt. If you
visit a samizdat site you can get in trouble. If you get samizdat spam,
the worst that can be said is that you might have read it. And as long as
the mailers send to individuals who clearly didn't opt-in, like party
officials, then other recipients can't get in trouble for requesting the
mail.
Plus, it's much harder to block spam than web sites.
But this shouldn't come as a surprize. Spam is speech. It may be sleazy,
but so what.
- Lucas
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GPL limits put to a test
XviD [1] is a project to make GPL divx codecs. Sigma Designs [1] is a
company looking to put out hardware to playback, amongst other things,
divx files. Problem is Sigma is using XviDs gpled code in ways not very
gpl. The results....XviD stops work on thier code and ask the users to
put preasure on Sigma to honor the GPL.
Some notes from other places....
>>From Doom9 [3]
"XviD development has been stopped! The Sigma Designs REALMagic MPEG-4
Video Codec contains wide portions of code taken from the XviD project.
Soon after the initial release of the REALMagic codec the XviD developers
have contacted Sigma and informed them about the GPL violation (for those
who don't know, XviD is distributed under the GNU Public License - GPL -
which demands that if you modify a GPL program you have to release it
under the GPL, which in this case means that the source code of the Sigma
codec must be freely available). Sigma promised to replace the stolen
code, but the new version of the codec which was released this month only
disguises the stolen code, it was not actually removed. Sigma was once
again contacted and asked to remove the offending code but until today
nothing has happened. Therefore the XviD team is now turning to the public
in the hope to receive wide public support in their efforts to convince
Sigma Designs to respect the terms of the GPL. And until the matter has
been resolved XviD development will not continue.
That being said I hope all the forum members who saw their threads about
the Sigma Codecs being closed will understand our motivation now.
Internally we already knew what was going on but since the XviD authors
first wanted to try and resolve this internally we respected their wishes
and kept quiet about the matter at hand.
[Update] Sigma has issued a press release announcing the availability of
the source code of their MPEG-4 codec and it's already up for download.
However, not a word was lost about the XviD issue and the press release
makes one think that the Sigma codec was entirely developed by Sigma so we
might be hearing more about this.
[Update] I found a GPL notice in some of the source code files, but it
also looks like Sigma placed their own copyright lines there and XviD
doesn't get any credit in the source either. The GPL notice also collides
with Sigma's Software Licensing Agreement that you have to sign before
downloading codec or source. On on the same issue DivXNetworks said they'd
fully support XviD in this issue and apparently DXn's relationship with
Sigma didn't really work out either, as Sigma's Xcard is not as DivX
compatible as it was advertised.
[Update]First an update on the XviD situation. The release of the Sigma
source code does not mean it's all over, it's far from being over. The
license agreement which you have to agree to before you can download, and
install the codec is not compatible with the GPL. Furthermore, it can now
clearly be seen (download the source code and have a look for yourself)
that the Sigma codec is pretty much a copy of the XviD codec, but all the
copyright notices of the original developers have been removed and
replaced. This does not only violate the GPL but copyright laws - you
can't just take a program, change a few lines and change the copyright
statements, you only have copyright protection for the parts you wrote on
your own. And related to this the Sigma codec also contains code taken
from the OpenDivX project, the files were outfitted with 2 different
copyright notices which is quite funny."
[1] http://www.xvid.org/
[2] http://www.sigmadesigns.com
[3] http://www.doom9.org/
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Re: The case for spam
> Russell Turpin:
> > That depends on how the list is collected, or
> > even on what the senders say about how the list
> > is collected.
Senders should vary the recipient list to include non-targets, like party
officials, and to exclude targets enough to give them plausible
deniability.
- Lucas
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Re: [vox] GPL limits put to a test
On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Tom wrote:
--]
--]XviD [1] is a project to make GPL divx codecs. Sigma Designs [1] is a
Sorry, Sigma Designs should be the [2] not the [1]
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The GOv gets tough on Net Users.....er Pirates..
from http://www.arstechnica.com/
"There has mostly been talk thus far and little action, but the Department
of Justice says it may be ready to file criminal lawsuits against
individuals [1] who distribute or receive unauthorized copyrighted
material over the Internet. Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Malcolm believes
that "criminal prosecutions of copyright offenders are now necessary to
preserve the viability of America's content industries." Malcolm also
believes that people who trade copyrighted material think they are
participating in a legal activity. I certainly think people who download
copyrighted works understand that such distribution--barring provisions
such as fair use--is not authorized, and it is not surprising to see
businesses continue to look for means to discourage distribution of
copyrighted works.
"Some prosecutions that make that clear could be very helpful...I think
they would think twice if they thought there was a risk of criminal
prosecution," said [RIAA President Cary] Sherman, who was on the same
conference panel.
I'm not too confident that lawsuits would have the effect Sherman is
hoping for. Although infrequent, there have already been civil suits or
warnings issued to private individuals, and they have served as minor
deterrents to the file-sharing community at large. Criminal lawsuits
carrying with them the possibility of prison sentences may generate
further animosity against groups such as the RIAA and may be difficult to
initiate because of the "schooling" effect of millions of systems
participating in file sharing. Only servers would seem to stand out from
the crowd.
The article cites the No Electronic Theft (NET) Act [2], which defines
illegal activity and maximum penalties for copyright infringement:
Criminal infringement: Any person who infringes a copyright willfully for
purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or by the
reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any
180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more
copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000....
For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction or distribution
of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish
willful infringement.
...
The term "financial gain" includes receipt, or expectation of receipt, of
anything of value, including the receipt of other copyrighted works.
Therefore, receipt of a work of value would be defined as "financial gain"
even if no money is involved. The NET Act excerpt does not clarify how the
value of a work is determined; an album or movie could be worth only $15
to millions of dollars depending on whether the value is assessed from the
perspective of the consumer or copyright holder.
The statute of limitations:
507. Limitations on actions
(a) Criminal Proceedings.--No criminal proceeding shall be maintained
under the provisions of this title unless it is commenced within five
years after the cause of action arose.
(b) Civil Actions.--No civil action shall be maintained under the
provisions of this title unless it is commenced within three years after
the claim accrued.
The penalties are too extensive to list here, but they can be found in
Section 2319: Criminal infringement of a copyright. In general, first-time
criminal offenses will carry a maximum prison sentence of 1 year.
I'm still not sure where the DOJ would start in choosing people to
prosecute because of the aforementioned "schooling" effect, but my guess
would be that, just like speeding, primarily the most prominent
individuals who operate large servers or transfer the most data will be
targeted in order to discourage more recreational file sharers. Thanks to
MonaLisaOverdrive for pointing out this story.
"
[1] http://news.com.com/2100-1023-954591.html?tag=fd_top
[2] http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/17-18red.htm
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Re: The GOv gets tough on Net Users.....er Pirates..
On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Tom wrote:
> from http://www.arstechnica.com/
>
> "There has mostly been talk thus far and little action, but the
> Department of Justice says it may be ready to file criminal lawsuits
> against individuals [1] who distribute or receive unauthorized
> copyrighted material over the Internet.
And yet STILL noone is out there creating _public domain_ content. Is there
even one person out there can can even begin to talk without being a
complete hypocrite? And no the "open source" people cant talk either, the
GPL aint even close. I know I cant talk.
If the creator didnt say you could have it without paying, it's theft, so
simple, hell that's even in all the major holy books.
Fair use needs to be clarified a bit and then I hope they start locking
people up. How else do i ever have hope of finding a job working for someone
that makes things people are supposed to ... *drumroll* pay for.
- Adam L. "Duncan" Beberg
http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/
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Re: Java is for kiddies
Reza B'Far (eBuilt) wrote:
> problems.... Why do most computer scientists insist on solving the same
> problems over and over again when there are some many more important and
> interesting problems (high level) to be solved ?????
Amen!
Doing it in an (unecessarily) harder way does NOT make you more of a man
(or less of a kiddie).
- Joe
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package my stuff please :P
If I have any RPMS in
http://www.dudex.net/rpms/
that could be useful to some one with a real apt repository or someone who wants to
maintain a package, be it known I am not selfish :)
I found stuff I thought would later get popular so I would not have to maintain the
RPMs for them after they hit the big time. Gnump3d is an exapmple of this.
So if anyone is psyched, go for it. If so, let me know so I can get the RPMs from
you in the future.
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RE: Java is for kiddies
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Reza B'Far (eBuilt) wrote:
> 2. C and C++ forces the developer to solve problems such as memory
> management over and over again. IMHO, Java is superior because the problem
> of programming in the future is not about 0's and 1's, making the compiler
> 2% faster, or making your code take 5% less memory... It's about design
> patterns, architecture, high level stuff...
Considering 90% of the fake job posting I see are for embedded systems or
device drivers - C still rules the world.
> 3. Java is not just a programming language! It's also a platform... There
> is NOTHING like the standard API's in Java in C and C++. Everyone defines
> their own API's, people end up solving the same problems ten different ways
The problem is the problem you're trying to solve is never the same. Java
will soon suffer API-rot (alot of poeple are already complaining about it),
it's just new. C was clean in the beginning too. API-rot is PURELY a
function of age.
> 4. If you have a program of any type of high complexity written in C, you
> can't possibly think that you could port it to different platforms within
> the same magnitude of cost as Java....
I do this all the time, It's alot easier then you think if the original
programmer had a clue at all... Java does remove the clue requirement tho,
just adds a huge testing requirement, QA guys aren't as cheap ;)
> 5. Makes no sense for a scientific or a business project to depend on a
> person... Java, IMHO, reduces the dependence of these entities on the
> individual developer as it is much easier to reverse engineer Java as it is
> to reverse engineer C (large applications).
No it's not, but you can hire teams of Javites for cheap at your local high
school. Java is about cutting costs and commoditizing programming - and it's
working!
- Adam L. "Duncan" Beberg
http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/
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Re: Java is for kiddies
>
> 6. Hardware is getting so fast that I'm not sure if the performance
> difference between Java and C/C++ are relevant any more.
When out-of-the-box parsing & transform of XML in java is 25x slower than
C++ on the same hardware then it does matter.
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RE: Java is for kiddies
Adam Beberg:
>Considering 90% of the fake job posting I see are for embedded systems or
>device drivers - C still rules the world.
There is a lot of C++ in the embedded world. With
static object allocation and a few other programming
techniques, performance differences disappear, but
C++ gives a boost in development and maintainability.
The real issue is compiler availability. Almost every
embedded platform has C cross-compilers. Many have
C++ compilers. But there is still a range of
platforms that have the first but not the second. Or
at least, that was the story a few years ago.
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Re: [ILUG] Seconds to date?
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 04:14:17PM +0100, Paul Jakma mentioned:
> On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, kevin lyda wrote:
>
> > gnu date is limited by time_t. but i thought time_t expired in 2037?
> > this seems to show it expiring in 2038:
>
> (2^31-1)/3600/24/365+1970
> 2038
>
> course, on UltraSparc, x86-64, IA64, alpha, etc:
>
> (2^63-1)/3600/24/365+1970
> 292471210647
>
> so we should be safe enough.
May I assume that x86-64 will be able to use a 64bit time_t too?
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RE: Java is for kiddies
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Russell Turpin wrote:
> Adam Beberg:
> >Considering 90% of the fake job posting I see are for embedded systems or
> >device drivers - C still rules the world.
>
> There is a lot of C++ in the embedded world. With static object
> allocation and a few other programming techniques, performance
> differences disappear, but C++ gives a boost in development and
> maintainability.
Agreed, not much difference there. With C it just doesnt seem as wrong to
be crawling around in registers and things. Quite frankly you cant fit
_that_ big of a project into a 32K ROM, so large project issues dont matter
as much in the embedded world.
And in the realtime space, or when you have data coming in at 2Gbit/sec
[fibrechannel], every cycle DOES count.
> The real issue is compiler availability. Almost every embedded platform
> has C cross-compilers. Many have C++ compilers. But there is still a
> range of platforms that have the first but not the second. Or at least,
> that was the story a few years ago.
Definately still very very true. C++ compilers are still a rarity.
- Adam L. "Duncan" Beberg
http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/
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[ILUG] Can I be added to your email distribution lists?
Dell Quinn
Account Executive
Fleishman-Hillard Saunders
15 Fitzwilliam Quay
Dublin 4
Ireland
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RE: Java is for kiddies
Reza B'Far wrote:
>This thread kind of surprises me... I started coding with C, then C++, and
>moved on to Java... And, I think that:
Looks like a case of "MY experience is comprehensive, YOUR'S is
anecdotal, THEY don't know what they're talking about".
>1. The people who pay the wages don't give a flyin' heck what programming
>language you write things in... they just want it to work.
In my experience, they do care. It has to work certainly, and in
particular it has to work with what they've already got, and it has to
work on client's systems.
My limited experience of Java started a few years ago when support on
Linux was so terrible that I ran away screaming and haven't come back yet.
Microsoft has announced that they plan to remove Java from Windows.
They took it out of XP already and it has to be installed with a
service pack. Somehow, I can't imagine them removing the ability to
run C programs.
>2. C and C++ forces the developer to solve problems such as memory
>management over and over again.
Can't say I spend any noticeable amount of time on memory management
issues, apart from the fact that I frequently need > 4 GB.
>It's about design patterns, architecture, high level stuff...
If your problem just requires application of a "design pattern" to solve,
then it's trivial anyway irrespective of language.
>I am amazed by the amount of time wasted by people talking about low
>level problems that have been solved 10 million times over and over
>and over again...
You appear to be gratuitously asserting that C programmers waste time
on irrelevant low-level problems and Java programmers don't. Depends
entirely on the programmer, not the language.
>3. Java is not just a programming language! It's also a platform...
Buzzword.
>a monolithic set of API's or a crap load of different API's slicing
>and dicing the same problems 50 different ways?
Unsupported assertion.
>4. If you have a program of any type of high complexity written in C, you
>can't possibly think that you could port it to different platforms within
>the same magnitude of cost as Java....
Dunno. E.g., I ported a wee 15000-line C program to Darwin on PowerPC
in a few minutes yesterday. Sure if it was badly designed it would be
10 times the size and harder to port. If it depended on unavailable
libraries it would be much harder. Portable code is easy to port.
At least that is the case when then language you used is available on
the target platform: I also run on ARM systems with no proper Java.
>5. Makes no sense for a scientific or a business project to depend on a
>person... Java, IMHO, reduces the dependence of these entities on the
>individual developer as it is much easier to reverse engineer Java as it is
>to reverse engineer C (large applications).
You can pay a good programmer to solve your problem now, or else get
some kids to hack spaghetti Fortran in any language and then pay for
maintenance headaches ad infinitum.
>6. Hardware is getting so fast that I'm not sure if the performance
>difference between Java and C/C++ are relevant any more.
Whoah!!! Performance matters to me every day. (Right now I'm taking
time out to write email while waiting for a job to run). Sure I could
wait 5 years until everyone's PC is fast enough to generate random EC's
in no time, when any twit will be able to program inefficient code
that is fast enough and the market will be overrun by competitors,
or I can do it now when very few people can.
>The end goal is the scientific or business problem to be solved.
Yes.
>And for those problems, languages such as Java, SmallTalk, and others
>allow you to think more high level than low level. Thinking of bits
>and bytes takes too much gray matter away from the real important
>problems....
It's true! I admit everything! Mea maxima culpa! Working in C makes
me spend all day thinking base, rank thoughts about hard-core bitography!
Not.
Actually I spend most of my time thinking in high-level mathematics.
>Why do most computer scientists insist on solving the same problems
>over and over again [...]
Dunno, and frankly I don't see the relevance to the issue at hand.
I'm sure Java is fine for some stuff, as is C or whatever. Horses for
courses.
Bye,
Rob.
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[ILUG] VPN implementation
I need to setup a VPN between a few sites. From what I've read, the the
choices come down (on the Linux side) to IPsec (using FreeSWAN) or CIPE.
It seems that FreeSWAN is 'better', being an implementation of IPsec which
is a standard. However, CIPE does the job as well for Linux clients and is
somewhat simpler to setup.
The problem is that it's not a pure Linux situation - a couple of the sites
run OS-X. I'm pretty sure that I'll be able to find an implementation of
IPsec for OS-X, but I think CIPE is Linux only.
So, the question is for those of you have have implemented BOTH - is there a
significant difference in setup time and hassle between CIPE and FreeSWAN ?
If CIPE is going to be much easier than dealing with FreeSWAN (and whatever
on the OS-X sites) then I'll simply get a Linux box for each of the remote
sites - with the low price of hardware, it doesn't take much more complexity
in software to make buying hardware to use simpler software economic.
Niall
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[ILUG] The Age Old 'Which Mailer' Question
I am trying to manage the email for a domain which I have hosted with
hosting365, and am trying to get the whole email send and receive thing
working nice and easily.
At the moment I have configured Fetchmail to poll the different pop3
mailboxes and deliver the mail accordingly, although it appears that I have
to have only one unix user being able to receive from each pop3 mailbox.
This could be a limitation of the fetchmailconf programme, I'm not sure, but
It would be much handier if I could just tell it to collect all of the mail
from the different mailboxes, and then deliver it locally according to the
"To:" header instead of the pop3 mailbox it came from.
The other issue I am having is sending outgoing mail. I have been trying to
use sendmail, but am finding it to be an absolute pain in the posterior, and
when the relay server will only accept outgoing connections if I have
checked for incoming mail in the last twenty minutes, and I don't know how
to set sendmail to run a command before it sends out the mail. Do any of
the outgoing mailer programs, exim or postfix or whatever, have a 'nice'
configuration interface, or do they all have nice friendly configuration
files like sendmail.
Any suggestions of alternative solutions would be much appreciated. There
are only three or four email addresses in my domain, and setting it up for
scheduled collection and either scheduled or immediate delivery would do me
fine.
Thanks,
David.
David Hamilton
Senior Technical Consultant
HP Ireland
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[ILUG] What HOWTOs for SOHO system
Hi All,
I'm trying to set up the following:
1. A Linux server running with a modem for internet connectivity and an
ethernet card for LAN connectivity
2. Other LAN pcs with ethernet cards, using the Linux server for
DNS/DHCP etc.
Basically, I want to route any non LAN traffic through the ppp0.
I've got some of the way, but like a similar post earlier about modem
problems, when I am connected to the internet with eht0 up, the routing
is all incorrect and noting goes out through ppp0 (eh0 must be the
default route or something).
Is there standard "out of the box" Linux tools that will carry out
portmapping on behalf of the LAN PCs ? (I'm planning on non routable
addresses 192.168.x.x for the LAN, routed outwards via the ppp0
interface).
Can someone point me at the right HOWTOs or routing documentation I need
to follow ?
Thanks,
Dermot.
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RE: [ILUG] What HOWTOs for SOHO system
Hi Dermot, if have a look at one of the dists. like www.smoothwall.org, it
will save you lots of time and effort, and should do eveything you want.
Justin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> Dermot Daly
> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:46 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [ILUG] What HOWTOs for SOHO system
>
>
> Hi All,
> I'm trying to set up the following:
>
> 1. A Linux server running with a modem for internet connectivity and an
> ethernet card for LAN connectivity
> 2. Other LAN pcs with ethernet cards, using the Linux server for
> DNS/DHCP etc.
>
> Basically, I want to route any non LAN traffic through the ppp0.
>
> I've got some of the way, but like a similar post earlier about modem
> problems, when I am connected to the internet with eht0 up, the routing
> is all incorrect and noting goes out through ppp0 (eh0 must be the
> default route or something).
>
> Is there standard "out of the box" Linux tools that will carry out
> portmapping on behalf of the LAN PCs ? (I'm planning on non routable
> addresses 192.168.x.x for the LAN, routed outwards via the ppp0
> interface).
>
> Can someone point me at the right HOWTOs or routing documentation I need
> to follow ?
> Thanks,
> Dermot.
>
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[ILUG] Email list management howto
I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon. :-)
Justin
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone point me to a howto on running mailing lists. Not looking for
> anything that is package specific, but rather something that
> gives general
> info on the various Email headers and dealing with returned
> mails, errors in
> transport etc..
>
> Thanks
>
> Justin
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Re: [ILUG] Serial number in hosts file
Ray Dermody's [[email protected]] 20 lines of wisdom included:
> Hi All,
> The serial number in our hosts files on our DNS server has gone
> corrupt e.g. 2002082999999999901 should be 20002082901.
> Its okay to set this back to todays date but I understand that our
> secondary and terninary DNS servers will only update from the master
> hosts file if the master host serial number is greater than the current
> serial number in the hosts file.
> Is there any way I can reset this on the secondary and terninary DNS
> servers?
Once you have the serial changed on the master DNS server, remove
the appropiate zone(s) on your slaves, and refresh your DNS servers.
Bind has a special case, if you set the serial to '0' I think. DNS &
Bind should have something on that.
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Re: [ILUG] Email list management howto
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Vincent Cunniffe wrote:
| Justin MacCarthy wrote:
|
|> I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon.
:-)
|
|
| Mailman ;-)
|
| Trust me, you do *not* want to running your own mailing lists
| on your own software.
|
| You'll wind up crying in a dark room looking for something
| high-voltage to stick your fingers into.
All things considered, I get that effect with Mailman, but the viable
alternatives are ezmlm, which is loonware and I'm avoiding on principle,
and majordomo, which seems to have stagnated. Oh, and there's apparently
something called SmartList which is a bitch to set up.
Waider.
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Re: [ILUG] Email list management howto
Justin MacCarthy wrote:
> I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon. :-)
Mailman ;-)
Trust me, you do *not* want to running your own mailing lists
on your own software.
You'll wind up crying in a dark room looking for something
high-voltage to stick your fingers into.
Regards,
Vin
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Re: [ILUG] Serial number in hosts file
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Your actual serial number is 1519761310 - from a dig I've just done.
Try resetting the zone number to 2002082901 - some of your secondaries seem
to have a serial number below that, so they clearly regard 1519761310 as
being less than 2002082601.
That should enable them to pick up the new zonefile.
T.
At 11:49 02/09/2002 +0100, Ray Dermody wrote:
>Hi All,
>The serial number in our hosts files on our DNS server has gone
>corrupt e.g. 2002082999999999901 should be 20002082901.
>Its okay to set this back to todays date but I understand that our
>secondary and terninary DNS servers will only update from the master
>hosts file if the master host serial number is greater than the current
>serial number in the hosts file.
>Is there any way I can reset this on the secondary and terninary DNS
>servers?
>
>Ray Dermody
>Computing Services Technician
>I.T. Carlow
>0503 76271
>
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[ILUG] Damian Conway in Belfast...
Hi All,
Damian Conway is in Belfast this week. He will be giving two talks:
o Perl 6 - Tuesday, 3rd September, 7pm, Jury's, Belfast
o Quantum::Superpositions - Thursday, 5th September, 7pm, Jury's, Belfast
He is also doing training courses...
http://www.kasei.com/training/damian/
Wesley.
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[ILUG] Marketing SIG has a good start :)
|::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::|
IT's Monday 520 02 September 2002
|::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::|
STUDENT LIFE BEGINS WITH LINUX
by
John Sterne
The launch last month of a marketing special interest group by the
Irish Linux Users Group (ILUG) - open source and marketing, it
seems, might not be mutually exclusive concepts - has already
sparked an interesting initiative at University College Cork. When
the new academic year begins at UCC, every incoming student will
be offered a copy of Red Hat Linux 7.3.
ILUG member Braun Brelin proposed this promotion, when he ran a
training class for staff at the UCC computer science department.
Brelin, who is the director of technology at OpenApp, says that the
Linux offer could be extended to any or all of the other Irish
universities.
The user group is tapping into an international Red Hat programme
that aims to introduce students at all levels to the open source
style of computing. The Linux distributor runs an 'educational
channel' to reach this audience, bundling educational software
with its operating environment and offering networked support
services to eligible applicants. This scheme was originally designed
to suit the educational structures in the US, but is now available to
schools and universities throughout the world.
Red Hat Linux 7.3 incorporates ease of use and maintenance
features and is intended to counter objections that Linux is hard to
master on personal systems.
The Linux-for-all project at UCC could also raise the profile of Red
Hat Ireland. Based in Cork, this operation has run shared financial
services for other Red Hat offices in Europe since 2000. Until now
its involvement with users in Ireland has been fairly limited,
although it does sometimes refer them to other Red Hat offices in
Europe that offer consulting or technical support services.
David Owens, Red Hat's director of global logistics and production,
sees the formation of the ILUG marketing group as a reason to take
a more proactive approach. In the last three months, he notes, his
office in Cork has received more and more calls from Irish
companies that are interested in adopting Linux and has introduced
some to Red Hat pre-sales consultants.
-------------
Many thanks are due to Braun and David for working together on this one.
Regards
L.
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RE: [ILUG] Redhat 8.0
I just saw the ISOs on an internal server here and was tempted....
D.
-----Original Message-----
From: John P. Looney [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 3:45 PM
To: HAMILTON,DAVID (HP-Ireland,ex2)
Cc: '[email protected]'
Subject: Re: [ILUG] Redhat 8.0
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 03:22:54PM +0100, HAMILTON,DAVID (HP-Ireland,ex2)
mentioned:
> Does anyone know when Redhat 8.0 is going to be released?
> I have seen some ISO images of it around and I am trying to work out
> if it's near release.
Null, the third beta was out last week.
It'll be an interesting release. Gnome 2.0, and GCC 3.2 - both very new,
large projects.
I'd not be putting it on any production machines for a while...
Though many say "RedHat X.0 releases are rubbish" - it's worth baring in
mind that they jump a release when the underlying archtechture changes, not
just the installer, so they are .0 for a reason.
Kate
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[ILUG] freeserve in the uk?
ok, so if i was in the uk for a wekk, how might i configure my laptop to
dial in to a freebie isp? redhat's internet connection wizard actually
has settings for uk isp's, but freeserve is the only one i recognize
and it doen't seem to work.
has anyone here done this?
kevin
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This is a large corpus of 42,619 preprocessed text messages and emails sent by humans in 43 languages. is_spam=1 means spam and is_spam=0 means ham.
1040 rows of balanced data, consisting of casual conversations and scam emails in ≈10 languages, were manually collected and annotated by me, with some help from ChatGPT.
Some preprcoessing algorithms
- spam_assassin.js, followed by spam_assassin.py
- enron_spam.py
Data composition
Description
To make the text format between sms messages and emails consistent, email subjects and content are separated by two newlines:
text = email.subject + "\n\n" + email.content
Suggestions
- If you plan to train a model based on this dataset alone, I recommend adding some rows with
is_toxic=0fromFredZhang7/toxi-text-3M. Make sure the rows aren't spam.
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