2022/06/22/#kubuntu.txt

[02:26] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> Hi, guys! It's possible to play CS GO on Kubuntu?
[02:27] <enigma9o7[m]> Yes, thru steam.
[02:27] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> Proton?
[02:27] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> I can't here
[02:27] <enigma9o7[m]> No, native.
[02:28] <enigma9o7[m]> It's linux native, not proto.
[02:28] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> It's doesn't play natively here
[02:28] <enigma9o7[m]> Why not?
[02:29] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> The game starts, the screen became black, but suddenly, it closes
[02:32] <enigma9o7[m]> I just checked mine for fun, says i havent played since oct 2021 and wants to update 1.25GB.  But after that I'll make sure it still works.
[02:34] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> Some test to do here at my CS GO?
[02:57] <enigma9o7[m]> it still works for me, just played a few mins
[02:57] <enigma9o7[m]> do other steam games work?
[02:57] <enigma9o7[m]> nvidia?
[03:01] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> Yeah, even GTA V. Just CS GO aren't
[03:01] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> I'm using AMD 5600G
[03:42] <R13ose> I have a Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 1st Gen Type 3444 and now Kubuntu is saying "The battery's health is at only 48% and it should be replaced. Contact the manufacturer." Would this be best to replace the battery?  If yes, would this be better to contact Lenovo or the store where I got this?
[11:46] <user|79> hi
[12:09] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> enigma9o7 still here?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:55] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> Someone plays CS GO on Kubuntu using AMD video integrated CPU?
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[13:15] <whackuum> hi
[13:23] <R13ose> Hi
[13:55] <IrcsomeBot> <milesdredd> hey , kubuntu 5.25 released????
[14:01] <R13ose> Plasma 5.25 Beta is available for testing afaik
[14:02] <IrcsomeBot> <milesdredd> yey, tht i know , i 'm talking about stable version (re @IrcsomeBot: <R13ose> Plasma 5.25 Beta is available for testing afaik)
[14:07] <R13ose> Yes 5.25 is out for the public to use https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.25.0/ and they even have 5.25.1 out yesterday
[14:08] <IrcsomeBot> <milesdredd> how to updateee?
[14:09] <R13ose> Here is a guide: https://www.debugpoint.com/2022/06/upgrade-kde-plasma-5-25/
[14:09] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> 5.25 is still currently too buggy to push to users
[14:10] <R13ose> Which bugs would be good to take notice of?
[14:10] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> Someone plays CS GO on Kubuntu using AMD video integrated CPU?
[14:12] <IrcsomeBot> <milesdredd> cs go? (re @quokka3_14: Someone plays CS GO on Kubuntu using AMD video integrated CPU?)
[14:12] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> Counter Strike Global Offensive
[14:12] <IrcsomeBot> <milesdredd> i dont hv (re @quokka3_14: Counter Strike Global Offensive)
[14:14] <R13ose> You can always try and see what happens.
[15:01] <R13ose> The battery indicator on the panel is saying "The battery's health is at only 48% and it should be replaced. Contact the manufacturer." on my Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 1st Gen Type 3444. Would this be best to replace the battery?  If yes, would this be better to contact Lenovo or the store where I got this?
[15:02] <oerheks> ask the store, for an original and replacement brand. i saved over 50%, €29,95 for a hp battery
[15:02] <R13ose> Thanks!
[15:02] <oerheks> now i have the full 2h45m worktime :-D
[15:03] <oerheks> a bad battery can go wrong that is why i replaced it, not to work offline
[15:04] <R13ose> wrong?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> oerheks, that's a pretty good price, is it an OEM or generic replacemnent?
[15:05] <oerheks> generic
[15:05] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:05] <oerheks> if a broken battery keeps charged, it migt burst or worse..
[15:06] <BluesKaj> my laptop battery is at 51% health and it's giving me a similar warning as R13ose gets
[15:06] <R13ose> BluesKaj: are you going to replace your battery?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> yeah, but I ordered my laptop from Dell over the internet so guess I'll just look for a replacemrnt generic type since the OEMs are over $100CDN
[15:10] <R13ose> Great to hear.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> there's a computer store around the corner from my daughter's house in Toronto so I'll check there first
[15:13] <R13ose> Luckly.  I don't have a computer store nearby my place in Toronto.
[15:14] <BluesKaj> heh
[15:16] <R13ose> Why do batteries go out when they hit around half way?
[15:16] <R13ose> drained*
[15:17] <oerheks> just one cell broken, i guess
[15:18] <BluesKaj> yeah, fully charged gives me about 90mins
[15:20] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> Someone plays CS GO on Kubuntu using AMD video integrated CPU?
[15:23] <oerheks> quokka3 one better ask on askubuntu, much more traffic.
[15:23] <oerheks> or #winehq
[15:24] <R13ose> Would always having my computer plugged in affect the battery even more?
[15:24] <IrcsomeBot> <quokka3_14> oerheks the website?
[15:26] <oerheks> yes
[15:26] <oerheks> R13ose, cheap charger overcharge, yes
[15:26] <BluesKaj> R13ose, apparently the number of charge cycles affects battery performance
[15:26] <genii> !winehq
[15:26] <ubottu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[15:27] <oerheks> also, it is good practice to run down a battery empty, once a month
[15:27] <oerheks> even if the vendor says it has no power memory limit
[15:27] <oerheks> and last; a battery is designed to charge 500+ times.. maybe 1000 times
[15:28] <R13ose> How does one know how many charges they have done?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> well, gotta go, 'later guys...take care
[15:33] <oerheks> R13ose, not all machines ca show this, the only lead is the difference, energy-full and energy-full-design . also acpi is a handy tool to check https://askubuntu.com/questions/69556/how-do-i-check-the-batterys-status-via-the-terminal
[15:37] <R13ose> This is going to show the amount of charges?
[15:48] <oerheks> no
[15:49] <oerheks> i find no tool that can, sucht defenition is not in the battery nor charger, it is a bios thing with compaq and HP
[15:53] <silv3r_m00n2> in kate text editor, the tab titles are showing the folder name along with the file name, how can i disable that ? this was not there in previous versions
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[16:05] <R13ose> Why have this stuck in the BIOS?
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[17:40] <IrcsomeBot> <parkour_29> Can we expect ubuntu to upgrade kernel to 5.17 with 22.04.1?
[17:45] <enigma9o7[m]> No.
[17:46] <enigma9o7[m]> Ubuntu doesnt change kernel versions with point releases.
[17:46] <enigma9o7[m]> Kinetic will have a new kernel when its released it will be available as hwe kernel for jammy.
[17:47] <IrcsomeBot> <parkour_29> which kernel could kinetic have?
[17:47] <IrcsomeBot> <parkour_29> like any guess
[17:48] <enigma9o7[m]> Too soon to tell, that isnt released til October.
[17:49] <enigma9o7[m]> could check what it is has now....
[17:49] <IrcsomeBot> <parkour_29> thanks
[17:50] <enigma9o7[m]> has 5.15.0.27.30 now
[17:50] <enigma9o7[m]> but that keeps rolling until September
[17:50] <IrcsomeBot> <parkour_29> ok
[17:51] <arraybolt3[m]> parkour_29: While the kernel may not necessarily change with point releases, there are HWE kernel updates, which can give you newer kernels on older LTS releases. For instance, the normal kernel in 20.04 is 5.8, but the latest HWE kernel is 5.13.
[17:51] <enigma9o7[m]> Thats what I was telling him earlier, but the hwe kernel updates usually are released same time as the 6-month release.
[17:51] <enigma9o7[m]> So the next hwe kernel will be whatever kinetic is released with
[17:51] <enigma9o7[m]> i.e. the 5.13 is from impishg
[17:52] <arraybolt3[m]> Ah. I didn't read the backlog.
[17:52] <arraybolt3[m]> I see where you said that now, sorry.
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[19:58] <oran> good afternoon everyone
[19:59] <oran> can someone tell me is the 22.04 install has what ever is needed to set up my nvme raid built in?
[19:59] <oran> if not is
[20:00] <Elliria> That depends on what's needed. Do you know the packages you would need?
[20:01] <oran> no not at all this is the first time I have tried to learn linux  since mandrake in 2015.  im basically an idiot here
[20:02] <oran> tomreyn and a few others helped me get my initial install done this weekend and this is the first time since that I have had time to mess with it
[20:02] <Elliria> I guess you'd need to find a tutorial that tells how it's done and then check if the packages exist already or are available in the package manager.
[20:03] <Elliria> Ah. Welcome to Kubuntu 22.04 LTS. I've been enjoying it for a few weeks now.
[20:03] <oran> thank you, I really like it so far.  Even though I want to learn how to use konsole/terminal for everything, having the gui as a backup is fantastic
[20:04] <Elliria> Yeah, if there's one thing KDE is famous for, it's offering you LOTS of choices.
[20:04] <oran> figured I would start with my server and if I get good with it here, ill change to a different distro for the server and switch my main system to kubuntu
[20:05] <Elliria> I don't have experience with those. This channel is also usually very quiet. You might get a lot more information in the #ubuntu channel since that's always very busy and has some knowledgeable people in it.
[20:05] <oran> gotcha
[20:06] <oran> have a graphics question aswell
[20:06] <Elliria> What's that one? I might be able to help with it.
[20:06] <oran> the nvidia upgrade from the what ever repository the .. i cant remember the command i used somethign like apt upgradeall or something liek that, it works and its recognizing my gpu correctly
[20:07] <oran> you know what
[20:07] <oran> i just answered my own question
[20:07] <Elliria> Heh.
[20:08] <Elliria> Mine updates itself as part of the regular system updates. Did you check the little box at the beginning of the installation so that the drivers would be installed for you automatically?
[20:08] <oran> yeah i was expecting my old hdmi gpu to output a signal at a refresh raite only my main systems hdmi 2.0  connection can acheive
[20:08] <oran> guess i spoiled myself
[20:09] <Elliria> You should be able to tweak the settings for it. Have you poked around in the graphics settings?
[20:09] <oran> yes thats where i noticed im at 30hz  at 4k instead of 60
[20:09] <oran> but only hdmi 2.0 standard can support 4k 60
[20:09] <Elliria> And it won't let you change it?
[20:09] <Elliria> Ah, okay.
[20:10] <oran> i did notice there is not option for 2560 x 1440 in the dropdown though
[20:10] <oran> not a deal breaker but i found it to be od
[20:10] <oran> odd
[20:10] <Elliria> That's got something to do with the driver, I think.
[20:10] <oran> ahh
[20:10] <oran> yeah i thought it was weird that it had so many options included 1080 and 4k but not 1440
[20:11] <Elliria> When I click on Driver Manager inside of System Settings and put in the password, I can't change any of the video settings because Ubuntu and Nvidia have taken over my drivers for me since I checked that box on installation.
[20:11] <oran> oh, there is a driver level issue, even at 1080 it wont let me go above 30hz
[20:11] <oran> ahh
[20:12] <Elliria> They seem to update the NVIDIA driver pretty frequently, so maybe they'll fix that.
[20:12] <oran> i downloaded the last may 2022 driver from nvidia but when i try to install it it gives me an error and wont install
[20:12] <oran> im wondering if i have to do it from grub
[20:12] <Elliria> Did you put the error into Google to see if you can find out what to do about it?
[20:13] <oran> no but ill run it again and actually pay attention to what the error says
[20:13] <oran> im being impatient is all
[20:13] <Elliria> No idea. Graphics aren't a strength of mine. I just kind of limp along and do what other people tell me to do.
[20:13] <oran> the hanger is setting in
[20:13] <oran> well thats me with linux in general
[20:14] <Elliria> Yeah, if you can't get the info on Google, the people in the #ubuntu channel might be able to help. Also NVIDIA has forums, I believe, that might be worth a try.
[20:14] <oran> i have a technical background so the concept of using terminal and troubelshooting is natural for me, but that doesnt matter if you dont know the commands
[20:14] <Elliria> Oh, heh. You mean just kind of doing what others tell you to do? It works a lot of the time.
[20:14] <oran> well ive been an avionics tech troubleshooting aircraft computers and systems for 20 years
[20:15] <oran> im used to "stupid machine will only do what stupid human tells it"
[20:15] <Elliria> Oh, nice. Then you're no stranger to technical documentation.
[20:15] <Elliria> Yes, exactly.
[20:15] <oran> no not at all
[20:15] <Elliria> Now it's just a matter of figuring out whose documentation to follow.
[20:15] <Elliria> That's where I sometimes run into trouble.
[20:16] <oran> yeah
[20:17] <oran> so the error isnt really an error other than the word itself, its pointing me to a log file for details.  Ill go check that out first
[20:18] <oran> if my terminal is set to a specific directory, how to go make it go back
[20:18] <oran> im set to `/downloads right now
[20:18] <Elliria> cd ..
[20:18] <oran> ty
[20:18] <oran> do i add the ..
[20:18] <Elliria> Note that there's a space between the cd and the two dots, unlike in Windows.
[20:18] <oran> ahh ok
[20:18] <Elliria> Yep.
[20:18] <Elliria> That's what tells it to go back one directory.
[20:19] <Elliria> cd all alone takes you home, which is also nice to know.
[20:19] <oran> ahh awesome thanks
[20:19] <Elliria> I love the command line.
[20:20] <oran> hmm
[20:20] <oran> still having permision denied issues if i try to just type the file path of the log direclty into terminal
[20:20] <oran> im in dolphin now, where do i find a /var directory
[20:21] <Elliria> You have to go down to the bottom in the left panel and click on your drive to open the system files. It's maddening. Dolphin is terrible.
[20:21] <oran> oh wow thats neat
[20:22] <oran> I never would have thought to click that
[20:22] <Elliria> Yeah, it took me a while to figure it out.
[20:23] <Elliria> I used to use Kubuntu back when Konqueror was the file manager. I loved that one. Then I switched to Ubuntu MATE, which has a wonderful file manager. Now I'm back and am pretty horrified at Dolphin.
[20:23] <oran> yeah it sucks for me because most of the info I find online when doing research is years old and there have been soo many advancements in linux in the last few years
[20:24] <oran> i know what i have been reading today is that btrfs is suppose to be blisteringly fast and that mdadmn or what ever its called was suppose to be a crap raid utility for modern linux.  but I think kubuntu was suppose to start coming with a different utility in the last few years.  The only raid info I have been able to find on the Kubuntu sight so far though said to install mdadmn
[20:25] <Elliria> If you go into "Settings" and then "Configure Dolphin..." and then click the "Startup" tab, you can choose to "Make location bar editable" and "Show full path inside location bar" and "Show full path in title bar" which I find makes life a lot easier as far as navigation is concerned.
[20:26] <Elliria> No idea. I'm not up to raids yet.
[20:26] <oran> i can immagine it would help in long term retention of the most used file paths
[20:27] <oran> yeah im only using it because this is my game hosting server
[20:27] <Elliria> By the way, https://tldp.org is one of the best command-line resources ever. It's like the holy grail or something.
[20:27] <oran> im trying to get every possible bottleneck work around I can short of a more server oriented linux distro because im a linux baby
[20:28] <oran> good to know
[20:28] <Elliria> When you set up that setting, you can just type or paste /var into the location bar to get there and don't have to mess with clicking on drives.
[20:29] <oran> perhaps noob would be more suitable than baby
[20:29] <oran> ooh gotcha
[20:29] <oran> im in the log file now
[20:29] <Elliria> Heh. I think we're all noobs when it comes to Linux because it's growing so fast.
[20:29] <oran> navigating dolphine with the drive tip you gave made it easy to find
[20:29] <oran> dolphin*
[20:30] <Elliria> Yeah, it's a bit strange. By the way, if you plug in a USB stick, it will show up in your system tray. I was used to it showing up on the desktop in Ubuntu MATE.
[20:31] <oran> ahh I learned that one when troubleshooting my permisions
[20:31] <oran> and my graphics driver
[20:31] <oran> used the thumbdrive to go into the try kubuntu thing in safe graphics mode or what ever it was called
[20:31] <Elliria> Ah, good to know. I had to hunt around for it when it didn't show up where I expected it. Now that I know where to look, though, it's fine.
[20:31] <Elliria> Yeah, I did that not all that long ago, too.
[20:31] <oran> i got used to seeing it there from windows using the unmount thing
[20:32] <oran> just did more than i expected in linux
[20:32] <Elliria> Ah, okay.
[20:32] <oran> whats funny is this log file......
[20:32] <Elliria> The NVIDIA one?
[20:33] <oran> the only thing in it is the error messaging directing me to said log file
[20:33] <oran> yeah
[20:33] <Elliria> Oh, now that's just strange.
[20:33] <Elliria> What's the date on the file?
[20:33] <oran> 22jun22
[20:33] <Elliria> This sounds like snake eating tail.
[20:33] <oran> right lol
[20:34] <Elliria> Basically, I am an error, look at me?
[20:34] <oran> it does say sometimes if packages dont unload correctly you can reslove it by simply rebooting
[20:34] <oran> so i might try that
[20:34] <oran> if i load into grub, can I just type `/downloads to access the directy and run my command from there?
[20:34] <Elliria> I need to put that into the program I'm working on. I already have this in pretty much any Python script I create: # I am a comment. Fear me.
[20:35] <oran> haha
[20:35] <Elliria> You can also pkill them.
[20:35] <Elliria> Do you know the process name?
[20:35] <oran> you should do a tts that says hello dave
[20:35] <Elliria> Hehe. Or, "I'm sorry, Dave. I can't let you do that."
[20:35] <oran> yeah hahah
[20:35] <oran> great minds
[20:35] <Elliria> pgrep -c processname
[20:36] <Elliria> That will give you the number of processes by that process.
[20:36] <oran> use a british girls accent and make it say "your all going to die down here"
[20:36] <Elliria> Zero is good. Anything more than that is a problem if you want it gone.
[20:36] <oran> redqueen
[20:36] <Elliria> If it still exists, you can do pkill processname
[20:36] <oran> hmm
[20:36] <oran> well it says any process using nvidia
[20:36] <Elliria> Heh. I don't know that one. Which movie is that from?
[20:36] <oran> i would immagine the kde is using it
[20:36] <oran> resident evil
[20:37] <oran> the first movie
[20:37] <Elliria> Ah, I don't know that one.
[20:37] <oran> yeah its an ai
[20:37] <Elliria> I could do, "Surely, you can't be serious. Quit calling me Shirley."
[20:37] <oran> traps the survivors in to contain the virus
[20:37] <Elliria> Heh.
[20:37] <oran> ahh lesley neilson
[20:37] <oran> classic
[20:37] <Elliria> Yep.
[20:38] <oran> carefull i migh carbon date myself
[20:38] <Elliria> Same here.
[20:38] <Elliria> I think we already are.
[20:39] <oran> here is yoru redqueen reference just a two second clip of it
[20:39] <oran> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ec8v3r1Pro
[20:40] <Elliria> Heh. I know someone who would like that.
[20:40] <Elliria> So, I'm curious. I was completely and utterly blown away by the amazing quality of the colors in Kubuntu 22.04 LTS. Have you noticed the same thing?
[20:41] <Elliria> It was like night and day going from Ubuntu MATE to this. It took me a few weeks to get used to it.
[20:41] <Elliria> Every morning when I booted my computer, I'd have that, "Oh, my," moment where I just sat there gawking at the amazingness of color that was everywhere. Now I'm spoiled by it.
[20:42] <oran> well I havent done much to test color accurasy or hdr, but im on a qled tv with my server so even the plainest of colors are dripping
[20:42] <Elliria> With dripping being good?
[20:42] <oran> yeah like its liquid its amazing
[20:43] <oran> i just switched to the greyscale default wallpaper and even its different shades of grey are stunning on this tv
[20:43] <Elliria> Ah, good. Then you're seeing it, too.
[20:43] <Elliria> What a treat they've created.
[20:43] <oran> but thats plasma
[20:43] <oran> or so im told
[20:43] <Elliria> Yep.
[20:43] <oran> thats one of the things that drove me to my kubuntu decision for distro's
[20:44] <Elliria> The Plasma?
[20:44] <oran> the kde
[20:45] <oran> yeah
[20:45] <oran> kde plasma
[20:45] <oran> its the 22.04 gui
[20:46] <Elliria> Yeah, it will keep you busy for weeks just exploring and tweaking it all.
[20:48] <oran> yeah im hoping to not need to. im hoping to rely almost exclusively on the konsole and then teh individual programs I am running for my servers
[20:50] <Elliria> Ah, so mostly headless.
[20:51] <oran> yeah I want to try to just take the comfort of knowing I have the kde in the background incase of fall off the bike, like my training wheels
[20:52] <oran> .. i have no idea why
[20:52] <oran> but that just made me crave cherry pie
[20:52] <oran> like home made
[20:52] <oran> not that canned or frozen junk
[20:53] <Elliria> Heh.
[21:05] <oran> im still around just messing around in discord and google
[21:05] <Elliria> That's okay. I was trying to get some help with Emacs.
[21:10] <Elliria> Well, I'm off to feed. It's dinner time here. Good luck with your configurations. It was good chatting with you.
[21:11] <arraybolt3[m]> My first distro used KDE Plasma, I'll probably never fully switch to anything else. Tried GNOME for a while, just wasn't the same.
[21:12] <oran> going to try to reboot and install this new nvidia driver, be back
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